# Season Long NFC North Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 1, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514 "2009-09-01T17:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/361 "2009-10-29T03:01:35Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > I hope that Beekman can help bring us a sliver closer to the running game we managed last season. Heh. I like the fact you’re hoping to get back to being the 24th ranked rushing team in the league with a less than 4 ypc. But, as they say, the journey of a million miles, begins with the first step. Or in Matt Forte’s case, the first fall down for 3 yards. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/362 "2009-10-29T03:06:42Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Heh. I like the fact you’re hoping to get back to being the 24th ranked rushing team in the league with a less than 4 ypc. But, as they say, the journey of a million miles, begins with the first step. Or in Matt Forte’s case, the first fall down for 3 yards. That’s 2 more yards than he’s falling for thus far! I’ll take it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/363 "2009-10-29T05:20:39Z")
I can not find the line on the Lions/St. Louis game. Anybody have it? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/364 "2009-10-29T05:35:23Z")
[Lions by 4](http://www.thespread.com/nfl-football-top-stories-100/2009-rams-at-lions-point-spread-odds-matchup-report.html). My God, how bad does a team have to be to be 4 point dogs to the lions? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/365 "2009-10-29T15:21:21Z")
I’m starting the Lions’ defense in fantasy this week. That makes St. Louis historically bad. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/366 "2009-10-29T15:45:28Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’m starting the Lions’ defense in fantasy this week. That makes St. Louis historically bad. The Lions have a defense? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/367 "2009-10-29T15:47:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > [Lions by 4](http://www.thespread.com/nfl-football-top-stories-100/2009-rams-at-lions-point-spread-odds-matchup-report.html). My God, how bad does a team have to be to be 4 point dogs to the lions? It wont lure much betting. Who would risk money on that game?I went to several sports sites and the Detroit Newspaper and it said the line was N/A. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/368 "2009-10-29T15:48:39Z")
Well, they’ve got a pass rush. Plus, they’ve held opponents under 30 points in 5 straight games! ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/369 "2009-10-29T17:11:44Z")
I’m looking forward to this game. I might DVR it just so I can look back upon these days when we win 5 Super Bowls in a row starting in three years. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/370 "2009-10-29T17:14:59Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > I’m looking forward to this game. I might DVR it just so I can look back upon these days when we win 5 Super Bowls in a row starting in three years. Columbia? Or did that leaf get grown in Hawaii? I’m just wondering, since it seems to have you hallucinating… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/371 "2009-10-29T17:15:27Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Columbia? Or did that leaf get grown in Hawaii? I’m just wondering, since it seems to have you hallucinating… 😃 Happy thoughts…think…happy thoughts… ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/372 "2009-10-29T17:18:52Z")
Somehow I think the league will fold before that happens. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/373 "2009-10-29T17:26:01Z")
Hell, if the New England Patriots can become a dominant franchise, anyone can. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/374 "2009-10-30T01:55:30Z")
The Patriots came from nowhere to a dominating franchise. The 49ers, were the best for a long time before dropping to the bottom. The Bears have has superbowl appearance and have had weak teams too. Buffalo went to 3 bowls then dropped down. The Lions have them all whipped in consistency. You know what you are getting when you go see the Lions. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/375 "2009-10-30T16:24:33Z")
Except we can not see them. they are blacked out again. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/376 "2009-10-30T16:25:49Z")
I figured all the Detroit-area network affiliates had gone out of business by now anyway. ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/377 "2009-10-30T20:34:37Z")
Antoine Winfield is out for the game against the packers, so the Vikes’ D takes a hit in the passing game AND the run game. It makes sense to get him healthy for the 2nd half of the season. We have a bye next week and then 3 home games in a row. Additionally, it’ll give his backups some great experience against a top-notch passing game. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/378 "2009-10-30T21:16:13Z")
> [@unwashed\_brain](#): > > Antoine Winfield is out for the game against the packers, so the Vikes’ D takes a hit in the passing game AND the run game. > > It makes sense to get him healthy for the 2nd half of the season. We have a bye next week and then 3 home games in a row. Additionally, it’ll give his backups some great experience against a top-notch passing game. This was the situation last week as well and Hines Ward put up a goose egg and the running D was still strong. I’m not sure how big a change it will be for them, but my fantasy team really hopes it leads to a huge game from Jennings. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/379 "2009-11-01T03:17:03Z")
Lions are blacked out, how do i get the game online? ---
**Author:** ![unwashed\_brain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a9adbd/32.png) [@unwashed\_brain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unwashed_brain)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514/380 "2009-11-01T17:37:29Z")
Looks like Berrian is sitting out today’s game as well. It’s going to be an Adrian Peterson kind of day. Go Vikes!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/season-long-nfc-north-discussion-thread/508514.md?page=20)