# Seattle Dopers: who wants to tour the underworld?

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**Created:** [July 8, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639 "2005-07-08T19:28:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/1 "2005-07-08T19:28:38Z")

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No, not the underground. The people who brought you the [Underground Tour](http://www.undergroundtour.com/) are presenting the Seattle Underworld Tour, now through September. The ad on page 76 of this week’s (July 6-12) _Seattle Weekly_ says:

> [@Underworld Tour promoters](#):
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> Opium  
> Graft  
> Sex  
> Debauchery!
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> The Underworld Tour
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> Historic Guided Tour of Sin and Flimflam in Seattle’s Infamous Old Red Light District

I’m a big fan of sin, flimflam, and Bill Speidel’s approach to Seattle history, so I want to take the tour.

It’s at 7:30 on Friday and Saturday nights. My proposal: let’s do it on Friday night, July 22 (that’s two weeks from today). Otherwise, I’ll likely have to wait until August, but we can discuss options.

Necessary details: the tour is adults only, 21+. It’s $15, which includes a cocktail at Doc Maynard’s, where the tour begins and ends. It lasts about an hour. Reservations are suggested, so once we have a head count and a firm date, I’ll call and make 'em.

And if we’re suitably inspired by yesteryear’s sin, interested parties can head to a bar and/or strip club to sample contemporary vices.

Anyone interested? July 22 work, or should we shoot for an August weekend? Friday nights work better for my brother, who’d like to go, but sufficient notice makes Saturdays possible.

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/2 "2005-07-08T19:37:55Z")

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Hmm, the BF and I will be in Seattle from 8/8-8/12. This sounds like something we ought to check out while we’re in town!

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/3 "2005-07-08T21:15:04Z")

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> [@Interrobang!?](#):
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> July 22 work, or should we shoot for an August weekend?

I’ll be out of town 7/22. August gives people more notice to get something arranged. I vote August. Are we voting on strip clubs, or are we playing it by panties? I mean ear! Ear! Playing it by ear. Start again.

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/4 "2005-07-08T21:31:52Z")

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August it is. How about Friday the 12th? Would you be able to make that, \*\* scout1222\*\*, or are you leaving town that day? Although I suppose if you can’t make that, you can’t do the Underworld tour – it’s Fridays and Saturdays only. Don’t miss the Underground tour though!

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Are we voting on strip clubs, or are we playing it by panties?

I figured that anyone interested could do it after a bar stop or two. I know it wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea, so anyone interested in the Underworld tour but not a strip club would come to the former and skip the latter.

That said, it may be your [last chance to get a lap dance](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002367884_stripclubs08m.html) before Nickels and the city council ban them, so seize the opportunity (well, not literally, as that gets you thrown out, I think) while it’s available.

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/5 "2005-07-08T21:34:49Z")

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We’re leaving town that day. Don’t worry about accomodating me at all, I was just poking my head in to see what was up. I’ll probably have to do their regular tours, which look much more plentiful, and are offered other than Fri/Sat nights.

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**Author:** ![Aguecheek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9adbd/32.png) [@Aguecheek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aguecheek)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2005, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/6 "2005-07-08T21:50:57Z")

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**Lady Cheek** will just be coming back from Maryland around 22 July, so August seems panties for us as well. Better! Better for us. Bum! Oh! What a giveaway!

**scout** , it’ll be too bad we don’t get to meet you if you can’t make it!

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/7 "2005-07-09T17:06:49Z")

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Sounds interesting! You can count me in as a maybe.

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/8 "2005-07-11T18:58:11Z")

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Does August 12 work for people? Is anyone else interested in getting an earful of antiquated vice?

Since the tour requires reservations, we should get a head count set at least a week before we’d like to go.

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/9 "2005-07-20T00:39:14Z")

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I’d like to join in the debauchery. See you all then.

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**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2005, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/10 "2005-07-20T02:16:05Z")

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It sounds so fun, but hubby is saving lives Aug 12th ☹ I’ll keep checking back, We might come if the date happens to change.

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**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thalion)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2005, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/11 "2005-07-21T14:02:43Z")

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Sounds like a blast! I’m always interested in a bit of sin (for me, it’s entertainment AND job security). I’ll be there!

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/12 "2005-07-23T00:43:20Z")

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August 12th actually works for me! Yay!!!

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**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thalion)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/13 "2005-07-25T15:05:20Z")

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OK, it looks like the 12th is the day.

So, are we meeting at Doc Maynard’s? What time?

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/14 "2005-07-26T01:57:59Z")

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Let’s plan on the 12th.

I’ll phone the tour service on Saturday – that’s this Saturday, July 30 – to reserve spaces for people who confirm that they’ll be there. People can sign up after that, but they can call the Underworld people directly to register.

Roll call so far:  
**Interrobang!?** , my wife, and my brother (the no longer active **inkysplotchy** )  
**Scotticher**  
**Saltire**  
**Thalion**

Maybe:  
**Aguecheek** and **Lady Cheek**  
**Cervaise**

Welcome:  
Anyone else who wants to join us.

Bars, strip clubs and any other contemporary debauchery establishments will be played by panties.

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/15 "2005-07-26T02:02:14Z")

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> [@Thalion](#):
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> So, are we meeting at Doc Maynard’s? What time?

Sorry – forgot to respond to this. I propose that we do meet at Doc Maynard’s at 7:00 so that we have time to check in and identify ourselves and otherwise socialize. Earlier is fine, of course.

Also, I just noticed that the Underworld phone number has been removed from the Underground’s web site. Hmm. I’ll try calling it to see what the deal is, and confirm before things get too crazy that the 12th will work.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/16 "2005-07-26T14:35:05Z")

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Have any of you been on that before? Don’t expect it to be like [The Night Strangler.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069002/plotsummary)

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2005, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/17 "2005-07-27T09:07:21Z")

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Some of us went on the Underground Tour a couple of months ago. It wasn’t the **Night Strangler** , [sub]thank the Good Lord[/sub] but it was lots of fun.

This one is a different tour, and since I have done the other one a few times over the years, I’m looking forward to it.

I’ll just be doing the tour, **Interrobang!?** …if anyone wants to get together for an early dinner before the tour, I’d enjoy it. Just let me know, my email is in my profile. I’m shy and retiring and contemporary debauchery post-tour is against my shy and retiring constitution. Said constitution is much more comfortable with historical debauchery, you know? 😛

[sub]Yeah, yeah, I know…I’m officially _NO FUN_[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thalion)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2005, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/18 "2005-08-02T02:23:00Z")

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**Interrobang!?** , anything new to report? Are we still on for the 12th?

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2005, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/19 "2005-08-02T04:31:11Z")

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> [@Thalion](#):
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> anything new to report? Are we still on for the 12th?

Yes. Sorry. I’m back to not having Board access during the weekdays, so I’m behind on my posting.

We are on for the 12th. (That’s a week from this Friday.) I called the Underworld and made reservations for 10 people. It’s a voicemail, but I haven’t heard anything back.

10 people covers everyone who’s a “yes,” and several people who are “maybes.” (Mumblemumble **Cervaise** and **Aguecheek** mumble.)

If anyone else wants to come along, chime in and I’ll call back to bump up the reservation. Reservations need to be claimed by 7:20, or they’re released – I figure we should plan on being at Doc Maynard’s by 7:10 at the latest, maybe shooting for 7:00. Time to down that included cocktail…

As for dinner beforehand, I’m open to the idea. Suggestions on a place?

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**Author:** ![MacGyverInSeattle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@MacGyverInSeattle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacGyverInSeattle)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2005, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seattle-dopers-who-wants-to-tour-the-underworld/311639/20 "2005-08-02T05:02:19Z")

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I have been on the Underground tour several times over the last 30 years and each time it has gotten shorter, or maybe I have just gotten older and less intrested.  
I would like to go on this with the GF, could you please sign up up for two spots (Assuming you can get ahold of them) We will be at the Doc’s at 7:00

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