# Second Coming? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 5, 2000, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199 "2000-01-05T19:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Jois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@Jois](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jois)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2000, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/101 "2000-01-08T00:26:00Z")
Well, that turned out pretty well, Poly. ---
**Author:** ![Road\_Rash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Road\_Rash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Road_Rash)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2000, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/102 "2000-01-08T01:21:00Z")
What the heck! I usually don’t past on topics this busy. The Book of Revelation was written pretty much about its own time. The imagery made references to current Roman and earlier babylonian culture. The person (people) who wrote it, along with many christians, felt that the end times were soon. Jesus himself said that he would return, and the implication to the apostles was that it would be within their lifetimes. The rise and fall of political entities is earthly stuff, and Jesus did say “render unto Caeser that which is Caesar’s…” Thus making the mandate of seperation of church and state. People of the faith would do much better to focus on other teachings rather that trying to determine what political alliances is leading to the end of the world. I do not understand people who want this to happen soon. It is like saying your fired. We’re not perfect, but we are managing ---
**Author:** ![Jois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@Jois](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jois)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2000, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/103 "2000-01-08T03:03:00Z")
Since this is left over spaghetti anyway: Cooldude said: mandate of seperation of church and state Jesus was very Jewish, raised and probably so schooled maybe as much as any Pharisee of his time. So I seriously doubt He has any interest in the separation of church and state. The culture like king-priests, priest-prophets and any combination there of. His coinage saying referred to the foreigners who were running the country. I just can’t see Revelation as Christian lit. * * * Oh, I’m gonna keep using these #%@&\* codes 'til I get 'em right. ---
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2000, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/104 "2000-01-08T04:02:00Z")
\\_ **BLUSH** _\\ Libertarian: I love you, my Dearest. Thank you for introducing me. David: > [@](#): > > Lib: You’re bringing your fiance here? Jeez, I hope you warned her about us! > Good thing you introduced her, though, 'cus I figured “Edlyn” was a man. \< smirk \> Libertarian has mentioned many good things about this board and those who participate. The rest I can see for myself. 🙂 The translation of “Edlyn” is noble woman. My reason for choosing that name is explained on another thread. Poly: > [@](#): > > All I have to say is, Edlyn, is Lib as confused in real life as he sometimes sounds on the board? Libertarian knows exactly what’s he doing. The confusion, if any, is ours. 🙂 Thank you for the welcome! Spiritus: LOL! Longhrn99 and royalbill: A libertarian Christian marriage will be an unfolding beauty in itself. All: ## Please excuse my brief interruption… You can stand tall without standing on someone. You can be a victor without having victims. -Harriet Woods- ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2000, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/105 "2000-01-08T19:38:00Z")
Spritus, Longhrn - ROFL!!! Lib - congratulations! Edlyn - lotsa luck! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2000, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/106 "2000-01-10T15:28:00Z")
Edlyn said: > [@](#): > > Libertarian knows exactly what’s he doing. The confusion, if any, is ours. Lib: Marry this one **now** while you still have her blinded to reality! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2000, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/107 "2000-01-10T15:47:00Z")
David: Frankly, I was surprised she said that. She has this annoying propensity for thinking for herself. 😉 I mean, she actually _likes_ seafood, for heaven’s sake. But I am really lucky to have found her. We met over the internet a couple years back, but then that’s another story. * * * “It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler ---
**Author:** ![royalbill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@royalbill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/royalbill)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2000, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/108 "2000-01-11T00:06:00Z")
Okay…I am lost…I havent checked in for a few days. * * * Heaven…One to beam up! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2000, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199/109 "2000-01-11T04:10:00Z")
Navigator wrote: > [@](#): > > Conclusion: Revelation is not the only portion of the Bible that speaks of the Second Coming of Jesus. You can rip it out if you want to, but be aware of the blessing that John writes in the last chapter of the book. That’s interesting, Nav, as the blessing also was coupled by a curse against adding scriptures to the Bible…at least according to most fundamentalist types. Yet, the Book of Revelations wasn’t the last book written in what said fundamentalists accept as the Bible. ARG220 wrote: > [@](#): > > Don’t bother enlightening me either. That pretty well sums up what many of us have been saying about your approach all along, Adam. Yet, you persist in trying to “enlighten” so many of us to your version of Christianity against the express requests not to. [temporary sig line]2 Ne 2:25 & Alma 41:10[/temporary sig line] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-coming/17199.md?page=5)