# Second POTUS Debate thread Sing-along and discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 10, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115 "2016-10-10T00:20:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/221 "2016-10-10T02:11:04Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> BREAKING:
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> Mike Pence has asked to be allowed to leave the ticket:
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/funder/status/785131078268948480)

What??

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/222 "2016-10-10T02:11:18Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> BREAKING:
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> Mike Pence has asked to be allowed to leave the ticket:
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/funder/status/785131078268948480)

Twitter is not a source, but I admit I just achieved a semi-erection.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/223 "2016-10-10T02:11:21Z")

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Ms. Raddatz is awesome.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/224 "2016-10-10T02:11:34Z")

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I think this is the tipping point of the Trump meltdown.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/225 "2016-10-10T02:11:44Z")

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> [@tenacious\_j](#):
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> Wow.

If true…I have to echo this. Wow. Waiting on a source, though.  
How awesome would it be if the mods broke that out?

Mr. Trump, twitter is saying Pence has bailed. Your reaction, please?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/226 "2016-10-10T02:11:50Z")

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The moderator should not be responding to Trump like that about Mosul. Gives Trump fuel for the “media is against me” argument.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/227 "2016-10-10T02:12:09Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> No, the question is what did she do while she was in a position to do something? If she did something, then good for her. If not, then good for Trump.

You tell me.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/228 "2016-10-10T02:13:04Z")

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> [@Tzigone](#):
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> I’m going to wait until I can get that straight from the horse’s mouth.

Yeah, I’ve been trying to source this more than a couple of cites and went beyond the edit time.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/229 "2016-10-10T02:13:17Z")

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I don’t buy the Pence thing yet.

Likely a joke about Trump disagreeing with Pence about Syria.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/230 "2016-10-10T02:13:28Z")

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Is it two or three whole questions from the audience at the “Town Hall”?

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**Author:** ![tenacious\_j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/439d5e/32.png) [@tenacious\_j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tenacious_j)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/231 "2016-10-10T02:14:35Z")

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He’s more interested in watching the clock than listening to her…

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Ms. Raddatz is awesome.

Sure, for a female moderator.

> [@raventhief](#):
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> If true…I have to echo this. Wow. Waiting on a source, though.  
> How awesome would it be if the mods broke that out?
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> Mr. Trump, twitter is saying Pence has bailed. Your reaction, please?

please oh please oh please!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/232 "2016-10-10T02:14:37Z")

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He is being asked a question by James Carter.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/233 "2016-10-10T02:14:45Z")

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OK I would like Hillary to STFU about all the people she’s going to arm and/or kill right now. Not a good look.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/234 "2016-10-10T02:15:07Z")

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Haven’t found confirmation for the Pence thing.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/235 "2016-10-10T02:15:38Z")

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Yeah, I’m sorry. ☹

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/236 "2016-10-10T02:16:45Z")

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That Pence tweet was from this morning, so without confirmation I think it’s nothing.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/237 "2016-10-10T02:16:52Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Haven’t found confirmation for the Pence thing.

Me neither. I doubt he’d quit during the debate.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/238 "2016-10-10T02:18:23Z")

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Mr. Trump is coming across very forcefully. He’s throwing impolite words at Mrs. Clinton like he’s got a quota. Mrs. Clinton blew it earlier when Mr. Trump said “I’m a gentleman”; she should have said “no you’re not”.

He’s setting a mean tone.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/239 "2016-10-10T02:18:24Z")

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Everything I’ve found (like from the last 6 - 7 hours), say he’s not bailing on Trump.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/240 "2016-10-10T02:18:52Z")

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More body language: in response to the question about being a devoted president, Trump turns toward Clinton and attacks her. Clinton turns toward the audience member and talks with him.

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