# Second POTUS Debate thread Sing-along and discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 10, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115 "2016-10-10T00:20:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/281 "2016-10-10T02:41:21Z")
My takeaway: Trump lives to see another day. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/282 "2016-10-10T02:42:01Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Man, Trump really, really blew that last question from a strategic sense – he just said that Hillary is a fighter and doesn’t give up. Wow. I don’t know. I thought she gave a non-answer and his at least pertained to the race. I wish she would’ve given that one a bit more thought. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/283 "2016-10-10T02:42:08Z")
Hillary took the easier, better answer. Trump did the best he could. On that last question, that is. No one is going to care about how either one of them answered that question 5 minutes from now. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/284 "2016-10-10T02:42:09Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If you don’t want to help your opponent, you do what Hillary did – say their children turned out great. It probably doesn’t matter much, but that’s what I thought. I thought it was a great answer for him to give because it made him look like less of an asshole. It seemed like genuine respect, and I didn’t think he was capable of that. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/285 "2016-10-10T02:43:10Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What should be have said?? As I said, Mrs. Clinton gave him the opening and example to compliment her on her family. He couldn’t do it tho so he complimented her on being a fighter who will never give up. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/286 "2016-10-10T02:43:27Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Someone should have put a watch on the two of 'em, see what the total is. Blitzer just announced Trump 40:10 Clinton 39:40 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/287 "2016-10-10T02:44:03Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Not the complete collapse i was expecting, instead he actually improved over the first debate. But not looking like a deranged lunatic is not going to be enough to pull his campaign out of the tailspin its in, he needed a solid convincing win and this was not that. What he wants here is to signal to his faction that the breakaway from other GOP leaders is not because of a problem \*he \*has but because of a problem \*they \*have. And his faction _ **will want to believe** _. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/288 "2016-10-10T02:44:39Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Man, Trump really, really blew that last question from a strategic sense – he just said that Hillary is a fighter and doesn’t give up. Wow. She has the STAMINA. I said STAMINA. She has the STAMINA. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/289 "2016-10-10T02:49:29Z")
Sorry I’m late. Trump drinking game: You have to take a sip every time he sniffles. Jesus, I threw up three times. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/290 "2016-10-10T02:49:47Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > What he wants here is to signal to his faction that the breakaway from other GOP leaders is not because of a problem \*he \*has but because of a problem \*they \*have. And his faction _ **will want to believe** _. His faction is not enough to come close to even sniffing a win, he needed to convince regular republicans and some independents at least and he did absolutely nothing to get them. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/291 "2016-10-10T02:50:31Z")
Not the first time Trump has made me throw up. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/292 "2016-10-10T02:51:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I thought it was a great answer for him to give because it made him look like less of an asshole. It seemed like genuine respect, and I didn’t think he was capable of that. It is something that sounds and feels like it would come from him, it meshes with his temperament and his history in the campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/293 "2016-10-10T02:52:15Z")
PS- Did anyone here ever figure out what he meant when he said “17 exploded”? ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/294 "2016-10-10T02:57:57Z")
Has any candidate ever threatened to jail their opponent before? Steve Smith called Trump a “Banana Republican.” ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/295 "2016-10-10T02:59:33Z")
Also, when he said “Syria is Russia” … has he already made a deal to allow Putin to take over Syria? Also when he said he wanted more nuclear weapons… he wants to scrap all of the SALT treaties? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/296 "2016-10-10T03:01:08Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Has any candidate ever threatened to jail their opponent before? Anyone who ran against Eugene Debs maybe? ---
**Author:** ![OwnRules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ea666f/32.png) [@OwnRules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OwnRules)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/297 "2016-10-10T03:03:18Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Say what you will, Trump did much better. I’ll still give the win to Hills, but Trump did much better. Agreed. Though I’ll add that it’s a depressing choice. Hillary by default, but the whole Neocon Light FP… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/298 "2016-10-10T03:04:48Z")
…okay. I’ve just received a very strange PM from a mod, threatening me with a warning if I continue my behavior. I’m completely confused, but that also means I’m out of this thread and the other until I get clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/299 "2016-10-10T03:07:17Z")
I’m going to call this one for Trump 1. Appears to know more about how the economy works than Clinton does. 2. She really floundered on a couple of questions. 3. BIG TRUMP POINTS - If you wanted to change things, why didn’t you as Senator? 4. Style over substance - no CrazyDon and Clinton looking like the smug elitist listening to all of his answers. The problem is campaign-wise, Trump winning the debate is like patching up a cut femoral artery with a band-aid. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/300 "2016-10-10T03:10:22Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > 1. BIG TRUMP POINTS - If you wanted to change things, why didn’t you as Senator? Really? That’s the dumbest thing talking point. Individual senators set all policy? News to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115.md?page=16)