# Secret Border Patrol Facebook Page **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 1, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358 "2019-07-01T18:30:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/121 "2019-07-02T20:40:48Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Where? In case you didn’t see the inline quote: [AOC concentration camps: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says "The U.S. is running concentration camps on our southern border" after undocumented immigrants moved to former WWII internment camp - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-claims-us-running-concentration-camps-on-southern-border/) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/122 "2019-07-02T20:43:20Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > End of discussion on the Nazi claims–she 100% did call them Nazis. Cite on _her use of the word_ “Nazi” or “Nazis”. Because you’re not supposed to lie in GD by misattributing quotes. Thanks! Also: [History of Concentration Camps](https://www.britannica.com/topic/concentration-camp), since you don’t seem to be too familiar with the term. > [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > “Knew” enough, as in they were coordinating with this group as part of some thinly veiled conspiracy, or “knew” as in “our PR people investigated this before drafting a PR statement.” It’s reprehensible and dishonest that you’re making the claim that a PR statement made by a professional staffer of a union, somehow means many of its members have some sort of moral rot that needs addressed. Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the defense of liberty is no virtue. Reprehensible? OK, I’ll accept that. You know what’s evil though? I’ll let you figure that one out… ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/123 "2019-07-02T20:44:24Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > In case you didn’t see the inline quote: [AOC concentration camps: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says "The U.S. is running concentration camps on our southern border" after undocumented immigrants moved to former WWII internment camp - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-claims-us-running-concentration-camps-on-southern-border/) A search on the word “Nazi” brings up zero (0) responses. You may wish to try again. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/124 "2019-07-02T20:45:58Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Where? Maybe it is written in invisible ink? Perhaps you need to wear those special glasses Rowdy Roddy Piper wore in “They Live”? Maybe the “i” in “concentration” is dotted with a microdot containing a secret message"? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/125 "2019-07-02T20:47:49Z")
The first use of concentration camps was by the British during the Boer War, so to call them concentration camps is not immediately equating them with Nazi run facilities. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/126 "2019-07-02T20:50:34Z")
OMG! I am now 100% certain she called our border guards “British”! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/127 "2019-07-02T20:51:18Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > A search on the word “Nazi” brings up zero (0) responses. You may wish to try again. Nothing about Nazis in [the referenced Instagram video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6aR6il3RgA), either. Fascists, yes, but not Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/128 "2019-07-02T20:53:55Z")
Perhaps he is unclear as to what “100%” means. Or “some”. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/129 "2019-07-02T20:53:58Z")
I can only conclude continuing to argue about a proven point is a desire to try to change reality, strange tactic to say the least. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/130 "2019-07-02T20:55:07Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I can only conclude continuing to argue about a proven point is a desire to try to change reality, strange tactic to say the least. Strange definition of “proven point” you must have. Besides, it’s clear to me that the “arguing” phase is over, and the “mocking” phase has begun. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/131 "2019-07-02T20:56:40Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Strange definition of “proven point” you must have. > > Besides, it’s clear to me that the “arguing” phase is over, and the “mocking” phase has begun. Mock away, much like Rush Limbaugh’s fans do when someone trots out proof of climate change. Echo chambers usually produce mentally deficient thinking and ignorance of basic facts, it’s on good display here from the SDMB’s liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/132 "2019-07-02T20:58:21Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Mock away, much like Rush Limbaugh’s fans do when someone trots out proof of climate change. Echo chambers usually produce mentally deficient thinking and ignorance of basic facts, it’s on good display here from the SDMB’s liberals. Maybe, but it sure it a lot of laughs! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/133 "2019-07-02T20:59:55Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > I can only conclude continuing to argue about a proven point is a desire to try to change reality, strange tactic to say the least. As long as you conclude, dude. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/134 "2019-07-02T21:00:27Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > End of discussion on the Nazi claims–she 100% did call them Nazis. …“she 100% did call them Nazis” says the guys who uses a cite of her not **literally not calling them Nazis** as proof. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/135 "2019-07-02T21:07:25Z")
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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/136 "2019-07-02T21:08:05Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …“she 100% did call them Nazis” says the guys who uses a cite of her not **literally not calling them Nazis** as proof. I posted actual video of her calling them Nazis. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/137 "2019-07-02T21:09:19Z")
No you didn’t. Video link, time stamp. Let’s have it. “At 2:05 in THIS video, she says the word”. Something like that. C’mon! You can do it! ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/138 "2019-07-02T21:12:43Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > No you didn’t. > > Video link, time stamp. > > Let’s have it. “At 2:05 in THIS video, she says the word”. Something like that. > > C’mon! You can do it! Like I said, there’s no debate here. AOC calls civil servants Nazis in a histrionic and stupid display, and it’s been proven. I don’t debate in bad faith and you are asking bad faith questions about a proven point. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/139 "2019-07-02T21:14:48Z")
You can’t do it, huh? Can’t point to her _saying_ the word “Nazi”, though you constantly claim she did so. Backing off? Thought so. Typical, really. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358/140 "2019-07-02T21:18:25Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > You can’t do it, huh? > > Can’t point to her _saying_ the word “Nazi”, though you constantly claim she did so. > > Backing off? Thought so. Typical, really. I mean you’re the one who keeps talking about a settled topic, I can only guess you’re upset that it undermines your point about the border patrol union? A point that was ill made and poorly expressed to begin with. If you were confident that you weren’t just arguing about a clearly proven reality, you wouldn’t feel the need to keep posting the same thing over and over again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-border-patrol-facebook-page/836358.md?page=8)