# Secret Invasion (Nick Fury tv series) There be spoilers in here **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [June 22, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922 "2023-06-22T04:16:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/1 "2023-06-22T04:16:58Z")
The new Nick Fury series on Disney Plus is out. They’re releasing one episode per week, with six episodes expected. After watching the first episode, it looks like they’re going for the spy-thriller genre. So far, so good. > **[Secret Invasion (TV series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Invasion_(TV_series))** > > Secret Invasion is an American television miniseries created by Kyle Bradstreet for the streaming service Disney+, based on the Marvel Comics storyline of the same name. It is the ninth television series in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) produced by Marvel Studios, sharing continuity with the films of the franchise. It follows Nick Fury and Talos as they uncover a conspiracy by a group of shapeshifting Skrulls to invade Earth. Bradstreet serves as the head writer with Ali Selim directing... ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/2 "2023-06-22T04:46:10Z")
I thought it was incredibly boring. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/3 "2023-06-22T04:48:39Z")
Grim. Nothing fun about it at all. Not even Olivia Coleman. I was almost held hope for a Pulp Fiction homage when Fury and the good Skrull visit the bomb maker, but no joy. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/4 "2023-06-22T08:51:57Z")
I liked it. It’s going to be a grim story, clearly, based on the big event at the end of the episode\*, but it’s good to mix it up a bit. The big controversy right now, that is overshadowing the actual story, is that the creators used AI for the opening title animation, which is a spit in the face of the artists who pour so much of their heart and soul into the MCU, and who are the core of its origins, no less. Very disappointing move from Marvel, and whoever else okayed it. \*_Which I am seriously not happy about!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/5 "2023-06-22T09:45:49Z")
To quote myself in another thread: > [@Series you've recently watched, are now watching or have given up on](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/2660): > > Secret Invasion has started. Angry black man traumatised by The Blip fights a secret army of ridiculously strong refugees engaged in a bombing campaign in reaction to broken promises over giving them a place to live while also trying to prevent a violent overreaction by the government, and…wait a minute, wasn’t this the exact plot of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/6 "2023-06-22T09:50:59Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > The big controversy right now, that is overshadowing the actual story, is that the creators used AI for the opening title animation, which is a spit in the face of the artists who pour so much of their heart and soul into the MCU, and who are the core of its origins, no less. Very disappointing move from Marvel, and whoever else okayed it. On the one hand, the twisted Uncanny Valley portraits that AIs generate do work well for the theme of the show. On the other hand, I agree that it’s a very bad trend and don’t want it encouraged. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/7 "2023-06-22T09:59:21Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > The big controversy right now, that is overshadowing the actual story, is that the creators used AI for the opening title animation, which is a spit in the face of the artists who pour so much of their heart and soul into the MCU Yeah, I mentioned that controversy in [this thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/looks-like-ai-is-going-to-shift-us-all-back-to-manual-labor-like-how-it-was-for-most-of-human-history/983733/172) (but my position is that the anti-AI people are a bunch of whining crybabies who are fighting a battle they are 100% going to lose). ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/8 "2023-06-22T12:13:45Z")
Way too many people telling Nick Fury he has changed for me to believe that is actual Nick Fury. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/9 "2023-06-22T17:16:02Z")
Well, that was joyless. I mean, I didn’t expect comedy, but, I don’t know—everyone’s relationship with everyone else is fucked, everything is bleak, and the only thing driving the story is that things might go even bleaker otherwise. I don’t know, but I think there has to be some kind of kernel of hope to fight for, not just greater despair to fight against, for me to engage. I mean, not that it’s bad, as such, and I’ll keep watching for a bit at least, but I seriously hope they’ll pick up the tone somewhat, or at least introduce some lighter elements. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/10 "2023-06-22T17:22:19Z")
I thought it was awesome. Nick’s memories of his dissipating in the Blip screwed his mind big time, and he’s been in hiding on the starship. Now it’s time to come back and save the day. I thought Olivia’s character was delightful. I’m enjoying they’re sticking with non-powered humans. The AI intro was well-done. My guess was that they thought, “Ooo, new tech!” and didn’t stop to think about the possible backlash. ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/11 "2023-06-22T18:50:06Z")
I really want to see a meeting between Olivia Colman’s Sonya Falsworth and Julia Louis-Drefyus’ Countess Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/12 "2023-06-23T07:44:09Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > I liked it. It’s going to be a grim story, clearly, based on the big event at the end of the episode\*, but it’s good to mix it up a bit. > > The big controversy right now, that is overshadowing the actual story, is that the creators used AI for the opening title animation, which is a spit in the face of the artists who pour so much of their heart and soul into the MCU, and who are the core of its origins, no less. Very disappointing move from Marvel, and whoever else okayed it. > > \*_Which I am seriously not happy about!!!_ Regarding your spoiler, I saw an interview with Cobie Smulders, where she said that she was getting a chance to really develop her character some more, so I’m inclined to say that it doesn’t stick. ---
**Author:** ![jadielyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jadielyn/32/8808_2.png) [@jadielyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jadielyn)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/13 "2023-06-23T17:27:41Z")
Unless this is high-level trolling, the death of [Maria Hill is confirmed.](https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/cobie-smulders-addresses-maria-hills-marvel-future-after-secret-invasion/) ⁽ᵃⁿᵈ ⁿᵒʷ ᶦ ᶠᵒᵘⁿᵈ ʸᵒᵘ ᶜᵃⁿ ᶦⁿ ᶠᵃᶜᵗ ˢᵖᵒᶦˡᵉʳ⁻ᵗᵃᵍ ᵃ ˡᶦⁿᵏ, ⁿᶦᶜᵉ⁾ ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/14 "2023-06-24T19:26:49Z")
I too felt the show was a bit boring, didn’t make sense from a motivational perspective, and suffers from continuing to try to make Emilia Clarke happen. > [@GuanoLad](#): > > The big controversy right now, that is overshadowing the actual story, is that the creators used AI for the opening title animation, which is a spit in the face of the artists who pour so much of their heart and soul into the MCU, and who are the core of its origins, no less. Very disappointing move from Marvel, and whoever else okayed it. > > \*_Which I am seriously not happy about!!!_ Oh so what. Do you think Kevin Feige fired the art department at Marvel, Googled some AI image creation tool and said “create some title animation for my new show”? They still have artists creating it. So they are using some AI tool instead of Adobe or fingerpainting or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/15 "2023-06-24T19:53:59Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Oh so what. There are a few people loudly complaining about the very existence of AI art. Meanwhile, an AI art Facebook group I’m in currently has 172 thousand members > **[Log into Facebook](https://m.facebook.com/groups/1208731756401972/)** > > Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know. And the Stable Diffusion Reddit group has 334 thousand [https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/) AI art is wildly popular, and is here to stay. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/16 "2023-06-25T18:36:10Z")
I like cloak and dagger stories so I am in but not a fan of how episode one ended. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/17 "2023-06-25T18:50:16Z")
> [@Series you've recently watched, are now watching or have given up on](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/series-youve-recently-watched-are-now-watching-or-have-given-up-on/946108/2660): > > Secret Invasion has started. Angry black man traumatised by The Blip fights a secret army of ridiculously strong refugees engaged in a bombing campaign in reaction to broken promises over giving them a place to live while also trying to prevent a violent overreaction by the government, and…wait a minute, wasn’t this the exact plot of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier? Marvel ran out of ideas quite some time ago. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/18 "2023-06-26T06:57:40Z")
When I hear “Nick Fury,” I think of this: [![](https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/30492392469.jpg) ](https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/30492392469.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/19 "2023-06-26T07:44:08Z")
You should. Same guy. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2023, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/20 "2023-06-26T07:45:43Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > So they are using some AI tool instead of Adobe or fingerpainting or whatever. You have a very disappointingly limited concept of how art is created. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922.md?page=2)