# Secret Invasion (Nick Fury tv series) There be spoilers in here **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, disney-hulu\ **Created:** [June 22, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922 "2023-06-22T04:16:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/81 "2023-07-07T15:52:58Z")
Also wasn’t clear why a Skrull would care about the person he was replacing’s son. Was he a moral Skrull or by having the person he was replacing’s memories he had the same attachments? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/82 "2023-07-07T16:29:27Z")
I’m guessing the admiral set the password before he was replaced by the Skrull, and the Skrull never got around to changing the password. Another 🙄. I thought _Moon Knight_ was bad, but at least it had cool superhero stuff going on, some warped reality mind games to puzzle out, and Ethan Hawke chewing up some scenery. This turkey is just a lame rehash of a dozen other better global terrorist thrillers with literally nothing interesting going on. Rock bottom for the MCU, AFAIC. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/83 "2023-07-07T16:37:03Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I’m guessing the admiral set the password before he was replaced by the Skrull, and the Skrull never got around to changing the password. Another 🙄. He means the skrull letting Talos go because Fury had a gun on the kid. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/84 "2023-07-07T16:53:06Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Also wasn’t clear why a Skrull would care about the person he was replacing’s son. Was he a moral Skrull or by having the person he was replacing’s memories he had the same attachments? > [@DigitalC](#): > > He means the skrull letting Talos go because Fury had a gun on the kid. Oops, my bad. But yeah, that makes even less sense. “I’m a ruthless shapeshifter seeking to start WWIII to eradicate the human race, but please don’t kill the son of the human I’m replacing!” 🙄 🙄 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/85 "2023-07-07T21:13:41Z")
The show isn’t fun, it isn’t interesting, and it isn’t intelligent. The trifecta. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/86 "2023-07-07T21:38:47Z")
I quit after the first episode. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/87 "2023-07-07T21:41:45Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > “I’m a ruthless shapeshifter seeking to start WWIII to eradicate the human race, but please don’t kill the son of the human I’m replacing!” Too bad the show couldn’t have used the Dire Wraiths instead. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/88 "2023-07-07T21:54:34Z")
It’s a shame they did this with the Skrulls. In the comics they are (or they were in my day) very fun, rather comedic, hapless villains. In their first appearance in Fantastic Four #2: Mr. Fantastic neutralizes the invaders by hypnotizing them into thinking they are cows. [![](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/0/40/505121-moo.jpg) ](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/0/40/505121-moo.jpg) A great Annual issue of the FF many years later explored what would happen to people who drank Skrull milk. - Like I said. Skrulls were fun. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/89 "2023-07-07T22:44:58Z")
It is also problematic to eat a hypnotized duck Skrull. > **[Tara Tam (Earth-616)](https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tara_Tam_(Earth-616))** > > Tara Tam was a regular girl until she unknowingly ingested a Skrull who had been hypnotized into believing it was a regular duck on Earth by Reed Richards. The foul meat gave her Skrullovoria Induced Skrullophobia, which granted her shape-shifting... But the Dire wraiths were pretty darn creepy for [the enemy of a doll](http://www.toysyouhad.com/Rom.htm). They got a medium-sized cross-over story arc, too: > **[Dire Wraiths War Issues - Comic Vine](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/dire-wraiths-war/4045-56353/issues/)** > > When the Dire Wraiths decide to take control of Earth, ROM and Starshine step up to defeat them, with help of SHIELD and other super-heroes. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/90 "2023-07-07T22:48:50Z")
BTW, that panel has been significantly altered from [the original](https://external-preview.redd.it/82uNSVpjbLHmKQ7EE6GN-3dX-Hi8xrA0G5mt1m_wf4c.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=29ae3f967f64c870fdf90cbb08914650efe10569). ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2023, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/91 "2023-07-07T23:49:47Z")
I think mine is from a recap in _Skrull Kill Krew_. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/92 "2023-07-09T04:03:10Z")
We just watched episodes two and three. It’s great! A fun mixture of comedy and pathos. Banter goes from over-the-top dramatic to silly. “I’m gonna retire. But since I don’t like golf, I’m going to take up: revenge”. Comedy gold! I like that characters actually die. Adds some real tension. And then I read the comments here… I guess I’m just not bothered by what irks others. :shrug: ---
**Author:** ![TwoCarrotSnowman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twocarrotsnowman/32/15879_2.png) [@TwoCarrotSnowman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwoCarrotSnowman)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2023, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/93 "2023-07-10T07:17:59Z")
I’m enjoying the show more than most here, it seems. I like spy shenanigans and I like the MCU, so I’m happy. I did have the same complaint about the password, but meh, I can live with that. I also like the opening credits. They have a creepy, not-quite-right feel to them that suits the show. It’s dimly lit, though. We watched episode 1 on a sunny day with the sun streaming in through a window, and we had to give up until after it set because we couldn’t tell what was going on. Back in the Phase 2 days, I used to say that given the vastness of the MCU, why did all the films have to be so similar in tone and genre? Why can’t we have an MCU spy thriller? A rom-com? A horror? A sit-com? I like that they’re exploring other genres now. The TV shows have given them the freedom to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/94 "2023-07-13T04:53:00Z")
…I’m hate-watching at this point. This is IMHO the weakest Marvel show or movie that they’ve produced. It reverses everything that I loved about the Captain Marvel movie and its message about refugees and not judging a book by its cover. And I always check out the credits for these things, because Marvel has done an especially good job recently in having strong, diverse writers rooms/directing teams, especially for its television productions. It didn’t come as a surprise to me that the writers room is both almost entirely male except a couple of story editors…and that the writers have so little writing credits under their belt. This is the weakest writing room I’ve seen from Marvel. And I think we can see that lack of experience on screen. I’m looking forward to Echo. But I’m worried in the long-term what Iger, the latest streaming trends behind-the-scenes, the writers (and looming actors) strike, and getting rid of Victoria Alonso will mean going forward. Because I’m really not enjoying this. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/95 "2023-07-13T22:57:15Z")
I thought Echo was canceled. I don’t love this but I’m liking each one slightly more than the previous one so maybe by the last one I’ll really like it. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/96 "2023-07-13T23:23:33Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > I thought Echo was canceled. …nope. Filming wrapped in August last year and due for release as an entire season drop on November 29th. The show has been plagued by unsubstantiated rumours of it “being un-releasable” and having to be “re-filmed”, but thats just par-for-the-course for anything that is regarded as “woke” these days. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/97 "2023-07-14T05:20:12Z")
“I don’t know if this means we should get divorced, or renew our vows.” Hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/98 "2023-07-14T05:27:26Z")
I don’t know what’s going on in this series, but it feels like an excuse to reset some stuff, clear out some crusty chaff, and tie up a couple of loose ends. I guess, for example, that the _Armor Wars_ series is dead. Maybe? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/99 "2023-07-14T14:19:10Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > “I don’t know if this means we should get divorced, or renew our vows.” > > Hilarious! That conversation was, for me, the high point of the show so far. (A pretty low bar, to be sure.) I hope Talos is really dead. His character was just pathetic, and that “We’ll show them who we aaare” speech was such weak tea I wanted to kill him myself. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922/100 "2023-07-14T16:09:08Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > I hope Talos is really dead. His character was just pathetic, and that “We’ll show them who we aaare” speech was such weak tea I wanted to kill him myself. What is weird about this is it seems to be going out of its way to prove the Humans that distrust the Skrulls are right. I have seen people try to equate them with Mutants with Talos being Charles and Gravik being Magneto but that doesn’t hold up. Humans aren’t abusing Skrulls the way they are Mutants. Most humans don’t even know Skrulls exist. Also Skrulls have been lying. Even Nick Fury didn’t know just how many Skrulls were really on Earth and the number was literally orders of magnitude more than they let on. In addition, they have spent the last few decades sneaking into positions of power all over the world unbeknownst to anyone. While I agree with Talos in principle (Peace is almost always preferable to violence), other than “We helped Nick Fury spy on stuff” what have the Skrulls done that is trustworthy? All they have done is sneak, and plot and secretly accumulate power. Other than Talos himself and his daughter I guess, there is absolutely no reason not to fight back against the Skrulls or trust them at all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/secret-invasion-nick-fury-tv-series-there-be-spoilers-in-here/985922.md?page=6)