# Security of encrypted messaging apps (e.g., WhatsApp, Signal)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/security-of-encrypted-messaging-apps-e-g-whatsapp-signal/1025622>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 11, 2025, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/security-of-encrypted-messaging-apps-e-g-whatsapp-signal/1025622 "2025-12-11T21:31:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Humbagger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Humbagger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Humbagger)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/security-of-encrypted-messaging-apps-e-g-whatsapp-signal/1025622/21 "2025-12-12T18:20:22Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> if your NSA wants to read my bitter WhatsApp messages to my ex-wife for their amusement, I wish them all the happiness I wish her.

So you are an embittered and angry person?Maybe you once googled a suspicious term? Anonymously posted not so benign thoughts?

Are you a part of one of the wrong groups of people? Have a faith that is viewed with suspicion?

Thank you for applying for our lists! Do not wait for a follow up, we will never let you know when your status of inclusion changes…

\</the agencies\>

What’s that you say? You belong to the privileged groups? Well done! [Mr. Niemöller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Niem%C3%B6ller) would be proud of you.

You have a very common, and very dangerous, attitude.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/security-of-encrypted-messaging-apps-e-g-whatsapp-signal/1025622/22 "2025-12-12T19:07:46Z")

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Not forgetting that @scudsucker is not an American and has no intention of ever setting foot on our continent, much less our country.

It’s a lot easier to be sanguine about this stuff when you don’t live in a powerful country with powerful agencies rapidly sliding into Big Brother levels of perpetual authoritarian dystopia.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/security-of-encrypted-messaging-apps-e-g-whatsapp-signal/1025622/23 "2025-12-13T04:37:24Z")

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> [@Humbagger](#):
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> What’s that you say? You belong to the privileged groups? Well done

I live in a country very far away from US jurisdiction. And I do not plan to visit the USA. Because it is not a place I can afford.

So I don’t really care if the USA is spying on my somewhat sad life.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/security-of-encrypted-messaging-apps-e-g-whatsapp-signal/1025622/24 "2025-12-13T15:27:15Z")

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> [@Humbagger](#):
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> So you are an embittered and angry person?Maybe you once googled a suspicious term? Anonymously posted not so benign thoughts?

This is off-topic for FQ.

> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I live in a country very far away from US jurisdiction. And I do not plan to visit the USA. Because it is not a place I can afford.
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> So I don’t really care if the USA is spying on my somewhat sad life.

As is this.

Let’s get back to FQ, everyone.

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