# See? Murfreesboro, TN mosque DOES encourage terrorism!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 30, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007 "2010-08-30T14:58:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/41 "2010-09-02T21:27:04Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@missred](#):
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> > they are the people who frighten me more than Muslim terrorists ever could.
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> Surely you exaggerate. They don’t want to kill you, they are just frightened and misinformed.

What they want to do is kill the first ammendment, which, IMO, is scarier.  
(or am I being whooshed?)

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/42 "2010-09-02T21:30:12Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@missred](#):
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> > they are the people who frighten me more than Muslim terrorists ever could.
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> Surely you exaggerate. They don’t want to kill you, they are just frightened and misinformed.

I’d say “willfully ignorant” instead.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/43 "2010-09-02T23:51:21Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> > [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > Surely you exaggerate. They don’t want to kill you, they are just frightened and misinformed.
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> I’d say “willfully ignorant” instead.

I must disagree. They are certainly ignorant, but not willfully so.  
They are generally uneducated and obtain their information from television.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/44 "2010-09-02T23:53:44Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@Angua](#):
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> > I’d say “willfully ignorant” instead.
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> I must disagree. They are certainly ignorant, but not willfully so.  
> They are generally uneducated and obtain their information from television.

Have you ever tried engagine people like that and explaining to them wht Islam actually is about? I have. Trust me, it did not end well.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/45 "2010-09-03T00:05:25Z")

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What would you expect from a town the can’t even spell “Murphy”?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/46 "2010-09-03T00:09:32Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> > [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > I must disagree. They are certainly ignorant, but not willfully so.  
> > They are generally uneducated and obtain their information from television.
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> Have you ever tried engagine people like that and explaining to them wht Islam actually is about? I have. Trust me, it did not end well.

Define “People like that”.  
Salt of the Earth?  
Redneck scum?  
Normal folks who don’t know any better?  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/47 "2010-09-03T00:16:23Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@Angua](#):
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> > Have you ever tried engagine people like that and explaining to them wht Islam actually is about? I have. Trust me, it did not end well.
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> Define “People like that”.  
> Salt of the Earth?  
> Redneck scum?  
> Normal folks who don’t know any better?  
> 🙂

People who insist that because I call God “Allah”, and turn towards Mecca to pray, I’m obviously the scum of the Earth who doesn’t deserve freedom of religion. Call them whatever you like. I tend to use the word “bigot”.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/48 "2010-09-03T00:21:27Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> > [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > Define “People like that”.  
> > Salt of the Earth?  
> > Redneck scum?  
> > Normal folks who don’t know any better?  
> > 🙂
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> People who insist that because I call God “Allah”, and turn towards Mecca to pray, I’m obviously the scum of the Earth who doesn’t deserve freedom of religion. Call them whatever you like. I tend to use the word “bigot”.

I understand your frustration, but you ain’t helping any. The guy who stood up at an anti Muslim rally where they want to build near the World Trade Center site and explained how he helped pull victims out is helping.  
[This Rabbi](http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/national_news/jews_urged_to_oppose_911_koran_burning/20527) is helping.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/49 "2010-09-03T00:43:42Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@Angua](#):
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> > People who insist that because I call God “Allah”, and turn towards Mecca to pray, I’m obviously the scum of the Earth who doesn’t deserve freedom of religion. Call them whatever you like. I tend to use the word “bigot”.
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> I understand your frustration, but you ain’t helping any. The guy who stood up at an anti Muslim rally where they want to build near the World Trade Center site and explained how he helped pull victims out is helping.  
> [This Rabbi](http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/national_news/jews_urged_to_oppose_911_koran_burning/20527) is helping.

So what do you suggest I do? I’m heavily involved in my wider community in the town that I live in, promoting (secular) education and outreach activities, volunteering with various causes, mentoring female students at work, I’m involved in charity work, in social mentoring programs for both the youth and women, and basically being a contributing member of the society in which I live. No, I can’t be a hero and pull out victims from the WTC. I’m not a Rabbi or other religious leader to be able to publicly oppose those things and be taken seriously, although I do oppose them and make my opposition widely known. All I can do is educate those who ask me about my faith and show myself to be a contributing and committed member of my local community. And yet, despite all of that, there are those who just see me as a Muslim, therefore a threat, someone to be feared, hated and reviled.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/50 "2010-09-03T00:46:34Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> I understand your frustration, but you ain’t helping any.

How dare she be cynical when people attack her religion and insult her character.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/51 "2010-09-03T00:47:31Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> All I can do is educate those who ask me about my faith and show myself to be a contributing and committed member of my local community.

Keep on doing that. Keep on posting positive things about Islam.

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/52 "2010-09-03T00:50:50Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@Angua](#):
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> > All I can do is educate those who ask me about my faith and show myself to be a contributing and committed member of my local community.
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> Keep on doing that. Keep on posting positive things about Islam.

Which is what I do 99.999% of the time. But as **jsgoddess** has pointed out, when its your faith, your character, your _everything_ that’s being hated and insulted, its easy to get cynical. I try not to let the cynicism out in every day life, but it does get frustrating sometimes.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/53 "2010-09-03T01:06:52Z")

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> [@Angua](#):
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> > [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > Keep on doing that. Keep on posting positive things about Islam.
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> Which is what I do 99.999% of the time. But as **jsgoddess** has pointed out, when its your faith, your character, your _everything_ that’s being hated and insulted, its easy to get cynical. I try not to let the cynicism out in every day life, but it does get frustrating sometimes.

It’s darn frustrating being a Jew sometimes.  
It doesn’t do any could for me to condemn all the Iranians because some cry, “Death to America!” and some want to see Israel “removed from the map” or whatever.  
We can just do our best to show the good side of our faith.  
Besides, condemning all Tennesseans as rednecks messes with my Momma! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/54 "2010-09-03T01:09:07Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> > [@Angua](#):
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> > Which is what I do 99.999% of the time. But as **jsgoddess** has pointed out, when its your faith, your character, your _everything_ that’s being hated and insulted, its easy to get cynical. I try not to let the cynicism out in every day life, but it does get frustrating sometimes.
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> It’s darn frustrating being a Jew sometimes.  
> It doesn’t do any could for me to condemn all the Iranians because some cry, “Death to America!” and some want to see Israel “removed from the map” or whatever.  
> We can just do our best to show the good side of our faith.  
> Besides, condemning all Tennesseans as rednecks messes with my Momma! 🙂

True, we all just do our best. And there’s no way I’d want to mess with your Momma!

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/55 "2010-09-03T05:40:30Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> > [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> > Crazy Lady Threatened?
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> > [http://www.dnj.com/article/20100901/NEWS01/100901028/1002/Opponent%20of%20%20Murfreesboro%20mosque%20says%20she%20received%20threats%20?GID=0](http://www.dnj.com/article/20100901/NEWS01/100901028/1002/Opponent%20of%20%20Murfreesboro%20mosque%20says%20she%20received%20threats%20?GID=0)
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> Nothing specific about the nature of the threat. Maybe they threatened to read passages of the Koran, or the Constitution.

Or maybe they simply threatened to continue to exist in her world.

Man, xenophobia and racism must be indescribably delicious for so many people to spend so much time cultivating it. I oughta try some.

…Nah.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/56 "2010-09-03T21:07:33Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> What would you expect from a town the can’t even spell “Murphy”?

Except it **isn’t** “Murphy”. Never was.

> **[Hardy Murfree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardy_Murfree)**
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> Hardy Murfree (June 5, 1752 – April 6, 1809) was an American soldier who served as a lieutenant colonel in the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War. He is the namesake of Murfreesboro, Tennessee.
> Murfree was born on June 5, 1752, at Murfree's Landing, in the British colony of North Carolina, later renamed Murfreesboro. His parents were William Murfree and Mary Moore.
> Murfree, a lieutenant in the Hertford County militia when the Revolutionary War began, was commissioned on Sept...

Major Murfree served under Washington, & got a large land parcel in Tennessee as part of his pay.

He moved to Tennessee.

Murfreesboro was once called Cannonsburg, named for one of hic captains. Later, re-named for him.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/57 "2010-09-03T21:09:46Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Murfreesboro was once called Cannonsburg, named for one of **hic** captains. Later, re-named for him.

You said it.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/58 "2010-09-03T21:11:03Z")

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And another whoosh is released to live free.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-murfreesboro-tn-mosque-does-encourage-terrorism/552007/59 "2010-09-03T21:12:35Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> > [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> > What would you expect from a town the can’t even spell “Murphy”?
> 
> Except it **isn’t** “Murphy”. Never was.  
> [Hardy Murfree - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardy_Murfree)  
> Major Murfree served under Washington, & got a large land parcel in Tennessee as part of his pay.
> 
> He moved to Tennessee.
> 
> Murfreesboro was once called Cannonsburg, named for one of hic captains. Later, re-named for him.

OMG, the people can’t even spell THEIR OWN NAMES!!

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