# See, now this is a crowd **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481 "2011-11-10T04:30:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/21 "2011-11-10T15:13:11Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I’ve analyzed this carefully, and it’s my opinion— stay with me here, this may seem shocking, but keep an open mind— that the OP is attempting to draw a disparaging comparison between this demonstration and the OWS ones. I like your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/22 "2011-11-10T15:13:33Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > No it’s not. It’s a troll thread. The bottom of the OP is not a signature, it’s a clear snark. Can this be moved to the Pit? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/23 "2011-11-10T15:42:24Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > People, if you have a problem with the OP, take it to the Pit. > > This thread is about the riots at Penn State. Keep it on topic, please. > > **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator If this thread were really about that, there would have been no mention of OWS in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/24 "2011-11-10T16:18:34Z")
Yeah, fair enough. Since I don’t hang out in GD or the Pit, I was coming into this without preconceptions about the OP, so took it pretty much at face value. Moved MPSIMS --\> Pit. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/25 "2011-11-10T16:47:53Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > Yes - sure. In the most populous city in the nation, once, OWS managed to get 6K people together. Otherwise, it’s a couple of hundred people sitting in a park. Occupy Oakland got at least 5k people together for their big march last week (or maybe it was the week before). ---
**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/26 "2011-11-10T17:07:43Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Occupy Oakland got at least 5k people together for their big march last week (or maybe it was the week before). NPR estimates 40,000. Some estimates as high as [100,000](http://blog.sfgate.com/abraham/2011/11/03/occupy-oakland-strike-draws-100000-violence-caused-by-100/). ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/27 "2011-11-11T05:31:45Z")
Yeah… Hate to burst your bubble, but if you can’t tell the difference between a few thousand college kids marching for a couple hours to support a coach and tens of thousands of people of all ages and demographics camping and protesting for _over a month_, then you really need to figure out what you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/28 "2011-11-11T15:04:50Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > OWS people dream about this kind of turnout. No, they don’t. There were less than 2,000 people involved for one night. It was a wussy riot by PSU standards anyway. Seriously, we’ve had riots in this town based on “It’s Arts Fest, and we’re bored” that were larger than this. > [@mhendo](#): > > Well, if nothing else, it’s pretty good support for those who believe that football is a bigger part of Penn State than intellectual pursuits You’re drawing this conclusion from an event involving a population that didn’t even reach 5% of the student body (not even guessing how many locals were involved compared to students)? —Z, drove through the aftermath on his way to work and didn’t notice, except for the one news van. ---
**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/29 "2011-11-11T15:26:37Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > It was a wussy riot by PSU standards anyway. Seriously, we’ve had riots in this town based on “It’s Arts Fest, and we’re bored” that were larger than this. No kidding. I was there for a research internship one summer, and I slept through a riot bigger than this one. Remember that, according to wikipedia, University Park has 44,000 students. You could probably get more than 2,000 to show up to protest something by offering free hot dogs and not even telling them what it was. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/30 "2011-11-11T16:18:38Z")
As I’ve said on this board before, the biggest riot in my time at Penn State involved a woman who flashed a crowd on (OK, you can laugh) Beaver Avenue, then refused to flash them a second time. Most of the media reports I’ve heard say that about 2,000 students were in the demonstration, but only a few dozen or so were in the actual riot. For Penn State that’s a “ran out of cheesesteaks at CC Pepper’s” level riot. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/31 "2011-11-11T17:04:33Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > For Penn State that’s a “ran out of cheesesteaks at CC Pepper’s” level riot. > [@Duke](#): > > CC Pepper’s Fuck, now I’m goddamn hungry and I don’t have time to drive to north Atherton. Fuck Jimmy John’s anyway. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481/32 "2011-11-11T18:24:53Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > As I’ve said on this board before, the biggest riot in my time at Penn State involved a woman who flashed a crowd on (OK, you can laugh) Beaver Avenue, then refused to flash them a second time. > > Most of the media reports I’ve heard say that about 2,000 students were in the demonstration, but only a few dozen or so were in the actual riot. For Penn State that’s a “ran out of cheesesteaks at CC Pepper’s” level riot. God, between the child-rape rooms on campus and the frequent rioting, it sounds like an absolute shit hole. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-now-this-is-a-crowd/602481.md?page=1)