# See that?  It's the speed limit.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2004, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457 "2004-08-18T21:16:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/41 "2004-08-19T18:26:18Z")

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HA! I got to know that road really well. I was seeing someone in the Bay Area, and I lived in Lakeport. Eventually I was driving it like the locals. 50 mph in the fog. 😛

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/42 "2004-08-19T18:29:20Z")

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Yeah, Calistoga to Santa Rosa, and onto the 101 via Mark West Springs Road.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/43 "2004-08-19T18:35:27Z")

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> So i’d say it’s on you, m’dear.

The next time I’m driving in Cali, I’ll think of you.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/44 "2004-08-19T19:05:02Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> The next time I’m driving in Cali, I’ll think of you.

Only if you promise to pull the hell over when you’re holding up a line of traffic. 😉

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/45 "2004-08-19T19:11:09Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Yeah, Calistoga to Santa Rosa, and onto the 101 via Mark West Springs Road.

Ugh. That road gives me nightmares. First time I ever drove it was in the _rain_. Because this is _me_ we’re talking about, therefore the cards must be, by law, stacked up as high as humanly possible in any given situation. I was almost in tears by the time I got to SR, took a few hours for my fingers to completely unclench!

I avoid it like the plauge now. I’ll easily go a half hour out of my way just to avoid that damn road. I love driving on it because it’s a gorgeous drive, I just make sure I’m a passenger. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/46 "2004-08-19T20:39:40Z")

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> [@Maureen](#):
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> Yeah, Calistoga to Santa Rosa, and onto the 101 via Mark West Springs Road.

Heh. I got married in a winery off of Mark West Springs Road. I refused to tell anyone how to get there and made everyone take a shuttle bus from downtown Calistoga. Ain’t no way I was gonna let wedding guests negotiate that one.

And my favorite “drive like a lunatic” road up there is the Oakville Grade. I’ve had many a fun little jaunt over that one in my old Saab Sonnett III.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/47 "2004-08-19T20:54:11Z")

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You got married at Fetzer’s?? That is SO cool!  
And, yes, absolutely agreed; driving Mark West Springs Road is always a challenge. Adding wine to that is a baaaaaaaad idea.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/48 "2004-08-19T22:39:33Z")

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Hans Fahden, actually.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2004, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/49 "2004-08-19T22:44:15Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> But I learned in Defense Driving 101 that it is not the responsibility of a driver keeping up with the speed limit to make sure drivers behind them can continue to speed. A slow driver is one thing, but if you’re stuck behind someone doing the speed limit…it’s on you to pass _them_. Not for them to pull over.

In the prep material for the UK written test for a licence, I vaguely remember a question along these lines…essentially the answer was pullover, because you’re not responsible for somebody else breaking the rules, but by allowing them past you’re removing the immediate danger of them tailgating you. Damned if I can find a cite, though 😃

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**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/50 "2004-08-20T00:33:02Z")

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> [@XWalrus2](#):
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> I don’t go above the speed limit for two reasons:
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> 1. Like I said, I don’t feel comfortable going above the speed limit.
> 2. The police here are _looking_ for teenagers speeding. Really. I’m not just paranoid. I don’t blame them, either, seeing as we’re a risky group of drivers.

Unless you have a different breed of cops there than I’m used to, you really aren’t in any danger of getting pulled over if you’re only going 5, maybe 10 MPH above the limit. It just isn’t worth the cop’s time. He knows how fast people drive in real life.

And don’t be too hard on yourself for being a teenage driver. Elderly drivers are every bit as dangerous as young drivers in terms of accidents per mile. When was the last time you heard of a teenager plowing through a farmer’s market?

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**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2004, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-that-its-the-speed-limit/260457/51 "2004-08-20T10:30:13Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I drive like driving Miss Daisy now and do not care about the cars bunched up on my tail. Actually, I do not even realize they’re there most of the time.

How do you know they’re there if you don’t realize that they’re there? Color me confuzzled.

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