# See the face of evil

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223 "2004-11-11T16:33:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/1 "2004-11-11T16:33:46Z")

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[Look! a picture of the face of evil!](http://www.local6.com/news/3908472/detail.html)

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> Witnesses told police that Garrett punched a student in the head for wetting his pants and grabbed another student by the back of the neck after he vomited and shoved his face into the vomit.

or how 'bout this act of caring love:

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> Garrett, who weighs 300 pounds, also reportedly pinned a special needs student facedown on his desk until he choked before two assistants reportedly jumped in to save the child, according to an arrest report.

There is no fate sufficiently horrifying for this fat bitch.

These kids are (severely) autistic. Their lives will be unbelievably difficult and hard as it is. The world is a scary place to them, they are overloaded with stimuli and it is near impossible for them to make sense of it all. And this fat psycho pig apparently felt the need to make it all worse. I truly don’t understand how anyone could ever sink that low. It’s truly beyond me. You spend even a few moments with kids like that, and they make your heart bleed for them. She, on the other hand, made like a Nazi camp guard. Bitch.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/2 "2004-11-11T16:44:50Z")

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If the allegations in the article are true, I hope this woman spends the rest of her life in prison. She doesn’t deserve to be free ever again.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/3 "2004-11-11T16:51:57Z")

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_Cue someone coming in and saying, “That’s not the face of evil, [this is](http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-11-11-voa2.cfm)!”_

Back to the OP, she just looks like someone who would do that. I hate to stereotype, but she does. She may outweigh me by a good 60 pounds, but I’d love to smack her around a bit. I’m sure I could take her.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/4 "2004-11-11T16:52:44Z")

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Wow. :eek:

Sam

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/5 "2004-11-11T17:01:53Z")

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Aside from the child abuse charges, she’s guilty of MOM charges against special needs children. It’s a special felony if the children are developmentally disabled (I work in the DD field).

She definitely needs to go to prison. My only question is why didn’t the witnesses (assistants, apparently?) report the abuse the first time they saw it? They would be mandadted reporters and they _must_ (not may) report abuse within 24 hours. They could be on the hook too if they saw this shit and didn’t report it.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/6 "2004-11-11T17:12:32Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Aside from the child abuse charges, she’s guilty of MOM charges against special needs children.

What is this? I was trying to find some information to read, but Google only returns a bunch of hits about special needs parenting.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/7 "2004-11-11T17:17:53Z")

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> My only question is why didn’t the witnesses (assistants, apparently?) report the abuse the first time they saw it? They would be mandadted reporters and they must (not may) report abuse within 24 hours. They could be on the hook too if they saw this shit and didn’t report it.

I’d like to know why, assuming the allegations bear fruit, too. How could they sleep at night? This is disgusting.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/8 "2004-11-11T17:22:56Z")

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Call me crazy, but I think this is one of the few times that we can all agree that the words ‘fat bitch’ are more than appropriate here.

I can’t believe people waited so fucking long to report this shit. Those poor kids.

Ava

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/9 "2004-11-11T17:31:30Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> My only question is why didn’t the witnesses (assistants, apparently?) report the abuse the first time they saw it?

I wondered about that too.

I also would like to know how people like her get into that business in the first place. It certainly wasn’t for love of special needs children. And I seriously doubt that it was for the money. How does someone like that end up with a job like that?

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/10 "2004-11-11T17:32:39Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> _Cue someone coming in and saying, “That’s not the face of evil, [this is](http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-11-11-voa2.cfm)!”_
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> Back to the OP, she just looks like someone who would do that. I hate to stereotype, but she does. She may outweigh me by a good 60 pounds, but I’d love to smack her around a bit. I’m sure I could take her.

You know, I’ve noticed that people who don’t seem to take any pride in their appearance, like this fat worthless disgusting piece of shit, generally aren’t good people.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/11 "2004-11-11T17:35:05Z")

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Good observation, **Excalibre**. If you can’t care for yourself, how the hell are you supposed to care for a bunch of special needs children?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/12 "2004-11-11T17:46:16Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> You know, I’ve noticed that people who don’t seem to take any pride in their appearance, like this fat worthless disgusting piece of shit, generally aren’t good people.

Yep. I’d be willing to wager that a bit of self-loathing is at the root of her abuse. But at this point, it’s hard for me to dredge up much sympathy for her.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/13 "2004-11-11T18:10:42Z")

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Because, you know, being fat is so horrible and awful and wrong. She’s fat, there has to be \*something \* wrong with her.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/14 "2004-11-11T18:13:10Z")

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To clarify: I do \*not \* condone in any way what she’s done. But using fat as an insult? Kind of immature, guys.

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/15 "2004-11-11T18:16:16Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Because, you know, being fat is so horrible and awful and wrong. She’s fat, there has to be \*something \* wrong with her.

Would you be so kind to point out where anyone said being fat was horrible and awful? Perhaps you posted to the wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/16 "2004-11-11T18:17:36Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> _Cue someone coming in and saying, “That’s not the face of evil, [this is](http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-11-11-voa2.cfm)!”_
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> Back to the OP, she just looks like someone who would do that. I hate to stereotype, but she does. She may outweigh me by a good 60 pounds, but I’d love to smack her around a bit. I’m sure I could take her.

AAAAAARGH! Another political swipe! I can’t take it anymore. If anyone needs me I will be in the corner, rocking back and forth, chewing on my own knee.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/17 "2004-11-11T18:19:00Z")

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I have a better word for this vile waste of flesh. I call her a Monster. I hope she rots in prison for a long long time. I hope the co-workers who knew and didn’t report this do some hard time too. Those who sit on the sideline and watch a wrong being committed are guilty too.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/18 "2004-11-11T18:19:10Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Would you be so kind to point out where anyone said being fat was horrible and awful? Perhaps you posted to the wrong thread.

Everyone’s been qualifying her as a ‘fat bitch’. She’s a bitch, there’s no question, but why is everyone so focused on her appearance?

_is also very willing to concede she’s oversensitive on this topic, but still…_

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/19 "2004-11-11T18:24:54Z")

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But gluttonous and self indulgent are too easily misspelled.

I bet she’s a whore.

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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/20 "2004-11-11T18:25:12Z")

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Fat as a perjorative gets a little old. Why not call her a _white_ bitch, or a _brunette_ bitch?

She’s a monster, no doubt. How awful.

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