# See the face of evil

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223 "2004-11-11T16:33:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/21 "2004-11-11T18:26:45Z")

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Looks to me like a White Bitch.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/22 "2004-11-11T18:28:44Z")

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Now that’s a weird simulpost.

WHat she’s done is awful and horrifying, no doubt. But what sort of creep do you have to be to deal with it by making macho, ha-ha posts mocking her appearance?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/23 "2004-11-11T19:05:57Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Everyone’s been qualifying her as a ‘fat bitch’. She’s a bitch, there’s no question, but why is everyone so focused on her appearance?
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> _is also very willing to concede she’s oversensitive on this topic, but still…_

I wasn’t mocking her appearance. I was referring to the fact that she used her heft to injure and intimidate her students.

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> Garrett, who weighs 300 pounds, also reportedly pinned a special needs student facedown on his desk until he choked before two assistants reportedly jumped in to save the child, according to an arrest report.

For that, I think the title is quite appropriate.

Ava

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/24 "2004-11-11T19:13:20Z")

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I don’t see her immage as the face of evil, or even particularly unkempt. Her hair is cut and combed. If she were smiling she might even look like a friendly rotund old lady. Her weight is unhealthy, but many people have unhealthy weight and still take pride in their appearance.  
If the allegations are true she is a disspicable monster unfit to exist freely within society.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/25 "2004-11-11T19:27:30Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> _Cue someone coming in and saying, “That’s not the face of evil, [this is](http://www.voanews.com/english/2004-11-11-voa2.cfm)!”_

I’m still gonna have to go with this guy.

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/26 "2004-11-11T19:35:28Z")

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If someone did that to my child, they’d see vigilante justice in action from about ten members of my family and friends.

That’s one of the scariest things about having a non-verbal special needs child, they can’t tell you what is going on or if someone is hurting them. That’s why, we, as parents, have to be advocates for our children every day of their lives. We have to be there to speak for them and let the caregivers know that we will make it our business to know what goes on at school/daycare every day. It’s the only way I can sleep at night.

Fuck that stupid bitch. I hope she gets tortured in prison. She deserves the worst.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/27 "2004-11-11T19:53:36Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> You know, I’ve noticed that people who don’t seem to take any pride in their appearance, like this fat worthless disgusting piece of shit, generally aren’t good people.

Assuming that that picture is a police mug shot, how good was she SUPPOSED to look?

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/28 "2004-11-11T19:59:28Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> Assuming that that picture is a police mug shot, how good was she SUPPOSED to look?

You make a good point. I’m sure we all remember Nick Nolte’s mug shot.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/29 "2004-11-11T20:09:03Z")

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How is it I can’t find a picture of Sir Simon Mulligan when I need one…now THAT is the face of EVIL!

Y’know, in her defense …

PSYCHE! She’s behaved horribly. She deserves a good spanking. Or at least to share a cell with Martha Stewart.

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**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/30 "2004-11-11T20:11:50Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> You make a good point. I’m sure we all remember Nick Nolte’s mug shot.

On the other hand, mugshots don’t _have to_ look bad. For example.

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/31 "2004-11-11T20:12:49Z")

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> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#):
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> AAAAAARGH! Another political swipe! I can’t take it anymore. If anyone needs me I will be in the corner, rocking back and forth, chewing on my own knee.

Hey, getcher own corner!

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/32 "2004-11-11T20:13:52Z")

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> [@js\_africanus](#):
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> On the other hand, mugshots don’t _have to_ look bad. For example.

More reason to hate the woman irrationally. How the hell does someone look sultry in a MUGSHOT??

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/33 "2004-11-11T20:16:18Z")

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> [@js\_africanus](#):
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> On the other hand, mugshots don’t _have to_ look bad. For example.

Damn, does she ever _ **NOT** _ look hot?

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**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/34 "2004-11-11T20:31:25Z")

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> [@TellMeI'mNotCrazy](#):
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> Hey, getcher own corner!

Oh shit, is this the round room?

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**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/35 "2004-11-11T20:36:15Z")

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> [@The Chao Goes Mu](#):
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> Oh shit, is this the round room?

Not sure, but it’s definitely not the padded room. ::rubs head:: Don’t ask me how I know.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/36 "2004-11-11T20:37:38Z")

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Or you could look like [this](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/gclintonmug1.html).

Robin

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/37 "2004-11-11T20:39:58Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Or you could look like [this](http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/gclintonmug1.html).
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> Robin

Holy shit, woman. Post a warning. You just scared all of my unborn children into my intestines.

Ava

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/38 "2004-11-11T20:56:14Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> That’s one of the scariest things about having a non-verbal special needs child, they can’t tell you what is going on or if someone is hurting them. That’s why, we, as parents, have to be advocates for our children every day of their lives. We have to be there to speak for them and let the caregivers know that we will make it our business to know what goes on at school/daycare every day. It’s the only way I can sleep at night.

Hate to break the news to you, but there are some parents who do the exact same thing(s) in their homes. Let’s not forget someone who transports from home/facility to school/program as well. My company and our employees have reported such incidents of abuse to APS/CPS on all parties, even if it’s alleged. Hell, even I was reported once (falsely) by a parent of one of the clients we serve. When we see abuse or the client alledges it, we don’t try to rationalize whether or not if it happened, we’ll just report it and let APS decide if it’s real or not. As mandated reporters, we must report abuse out in the public as well. I believe it’s been 3 times that we (my wife and I) have done that as well.

Using her weight to abuse the students does qualify for her to be labeled “fat bitch” in my book…

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/39 "2004-11-11T20:59:00Z")

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> [@Yeticus Rex](#):
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> Hate to break the news to you, but there are some parents who do the exact same thing(s) in their homes. Let’s not forget someone who transports from home/facility to school/program as well.

Yeah, well, I know that some people do it, but not to my kiddo. And I’m the one who transports her, so no worries there except for my bad driving. 😉

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/see-the-face-of-evil/274223/40 "2004-11-11T21:03:35Z")

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I heard about this on the news this morning. They said that she’d slammed one autistic childs head into the desk so hard that it knocked out two teeth.

Anything that I’d wish on this woman cannot be spoken publically without severe liability issues, I’m sure.

May justice serve her swiftly and accurately.

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