# Seeking video/movies/reports/must-sees about 9/11

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**Created:** [September 11, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416 "2012-09-11T18:31:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/1 "2012-09-11T18:31:37Z")

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Hi. I’m probably the only person on the planet that hasn’t watched anything on 9/11 since it occurred. I really couldn’t tell you why; at the time it happened, I know I saw the news and all, but I kind of shut it out. Again, no real reason why. It wasn’t personal for me in any way, but it was just too big for me to take in. Or something. I really don’t know. The show Rescue Me is quite honestly all I’ve seen that touches on it at all, and that was very little, really.

Anyway…Now that it’s been over a decade, I’m seeking out articles, movies, videos, what-not. Not conspiracy stuff; I’d rather have stuff that at least presumes to be the truth, even if it’s not thorough. Books, too, if there have been any that seem particularly macro- or micro-scopic.

So if anyone has any recommendations to things online, stored news articles they think are worthy, movies, documentaries, etc. I am starting with Farenheit 9-11 just because it’s on Youtube and easy to get to. 😉 I do and will take everything with a grain of salt; I am good at that. But, for whatever reason, I think it’s time, and I can take it in, now.

So any recommendations or links would be appreciated 🙂 Thank you in advance.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/2 "2012-09-11T18:50:50Z")

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One place to start might be [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=86458), which provides an amazing look at 9/11 unfolding as it happened. I found it to be of great value on that day, and re-read it many times over the following months and years. Eventually I even printed out the entire thread so that I would have a permanent record.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/3 "2012-09-11T19:03:11Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> One place to start might be [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=86458), which provides an amazing look at 9/11 unfolding as it happened. I found it to be of great value on that day, and re-read it many times over the following months and years. Eventually I even printed out the entire thread so that I would have a permanent record.

Thank you, that will be very interesting! I keep hoping to find kind of a compendium of news reports from that day, articles later on, indepth stuff. Maybe the History channel has something, hrm…

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**Author:** ![OtisCampbellWasRight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d78d45/32.png) [@OtisCampbellWasRight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtisCampbellWasRight)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/4 "2012-09-11T19:35:44Z")

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Michael Moore’s “documentary” about 9-11 is a complete load, and not worth your time. There’s a reason why it’s available for free: You get what you pay for.

The thread that’s linked above offers quite useful insights, OTOH.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/5 "2012-09-11T20:15:50Z")

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The film entitled just 9/11 by the Naudet brothers who were doing a fire fighting documentary the morning of the attacks is definitely something to see.

PBS put out several good Nova episodes about 9/11 too.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/6 "2012-09-11T20:17:59Z")

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Documentary: [Collateral Damages](http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/287904/Collateral-Damages/overview)

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**Author:** ![howye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@howye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howye)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/7 "2012-09-11T20:36:54Z")

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> [@fiddlesticks](#):
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> The film entitled just 9/11 by the Naudet brothers who were doing a fire fighting documentary the morning of the attacks is definitely something to see.
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> PBS put out several good Nova episodes about 9/11 too.

I would second the Naudet brothers film. Because it is not a 9/11 movie, or at least didn’t start out that way. They happened to be doing a documentary on New York firefighters and you get to know the crew in the firehouse. Which makes it all the more heartbreaking to watch.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/8 "2012-09-11T20:49:49Z")

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Thank you for the suggestions and insights. This will take me a bit to get through, but I’ll watch it all, eventually. And hopefully read, too.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/9 "2012-09-11T20:50:09Z")

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> [@fiddlesticks](#):
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> The film entitled just 9/11 by the Naudet brothers who were doing a fire fighting documentary the morning of the attacks is definitely something to see.
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> PBS put out several good Nova episodes about 9/11 too.

Very powerful movie. As far as I know it has the only footage of the first plane hitting the tower.

From a more technical stand point its good to look at the Popular Mechanics 911 myth debunking pages. Even if you are not looking at it from a CT debunking angle it gives a good over view of what happened that day.

> **[Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report](https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a49/1227842/)**
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> Popular Mechanics examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/10 "2012-09-11T20:50:50Z")

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> [@OtisCampbellWasRight](#):
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> Michael Moore’s “documentary” about 9-11 is a complete load, and not worth your time. There’s a reason why it’s available for free: You get what you pay for.

I have to ask: I know the power of manipulating data, but is there anything in that film that is an outright lie? The video alone is interesting; kinda hard to fake news reports and White House comments. Also…‘Get what you pay for?’ Everything on 9-11 out there is free, and/or put out with a specific bias. Which is why I want to cover as much as I can.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/11 "2012-09-11T21:18:42Z")

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Team America: World Police. You find out what 9/11 x 100 would be.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/12 "2012-09-11T21:25:30Z")

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The footage of the cruise missile hitting the Pentagon.  
I kid, I kid!

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/13 "2012-09-11T21:33:31Z")

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I did notice you mentioned movies. For a true story made into a drama I would have to recommend World Trade Center. I cringed when I heard that Oliver Stone was making this movie. But he managed to make it totally apolitical. I cried like a baby. But it was a good movie.

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/14 "2012-09-11T21:53:55Z")

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United 93

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/15 "2012-09-11T21:58:40Z")

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/takes notes

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/16 "2012-09-11T22:10:13Z")

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Tonight, the History Channel (regular and HD) is showing “102 Minutes that Changed America” which is, IIRC, a commentator-free compilation of footage, etc, in real-time from the beginning of the first crash. Much of the footage was completely new to me when I first saw this show - worth your while.

I believe this was on MSNBC last year.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/17 "2012-09-11T22:18:48Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Tonight, the History Channel (regular and HD) is showing “102 Minutes that Changed America” which is, IIRC, a commentator-free compilation of footage, etc, in real-time from the beginning of the first crash. Much of the footage was completely new to me when I first saw this show - worth your while.
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> I believe this was on MSNBC last year.

Oh man, I had that on my DVR forever and could never come around to watching it before I deleted it unwatched. Maybe I’ll give it another shot.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/18 "2012-09-11T22:38:00Z")

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Thank you! Will look for that asap. I’d kind of assumed, or hoped, that the major papers would have links to older, more complete articles on this date, but no such luck. I’m just too late to the party, I guess.

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**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/19 "2012-09-11T22:40:59Z")

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At 10 PM CST, The History Channel will be playing “The Man Who Predicted 9/11”, a documentary about one of my personal heroes, [Rick Rescorla](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rescorla).

Rick was an Englishman from Cornwall who emigrated to the United States to join the US Army and serve in Vietnam. As chief of security for Morgan Stanley during the [1993 World Trade Center bombing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_bombing), he and his Army buddy Dan Hill evaluated security measures for the building and potential attack vectors. They agreed that the next attack would be via airplane, and tried to get the company to move out of the building. As they would not, he did his best to train all the employees in evacuation.

From the Wikipedia article:

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> At 8:46 a.m. on the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 11 struck World Trade Center Tower 1. Rescorla heard the explosion and saw the Tower burning from his office window. When a Port Authority announcement came over the P.A. system urging people to stay at their desks, Rescorla ignored the announcement, grabbed his bullhorn, walk-talkie and cell phone, and began systematically ordering Morgan Stanley employees evacuate, including the 1,000 employees in WTC 5. He directed people down a stairwell from the 44th floor, continuing to calm employees after the building lurched violently following the crash of the second plane 38 floors above. Morgan Stanley executive Bill McMahon stated that even a group of 250 people visiting the offices for a stockbroker training class knew what to do because they had been shown the nearest hallway. Having calmed his men in Vietnam by singing Cornish songs from his youth, Rescorla did the same in the stairwell, singing, “Men of Cornwall stand ye steady. It cannot be ever said ye for the battle were not ready. Stand and never yield!” Between songs, Rescorla called his wife, telling her, “Stop crying. I have to get these people out safely. If something should happen to me, I want you to know I’ve never been happier. You made my life.” After successfully evacuating the majority of Morgan Stanley’s 2,687 employees, he went back inside the building. When one of his colleagues told him he too had to evacuate the World Trade Center, Rescorla replied, “As soon as I make sure everyone else is out”. He was last seen on the 10th floor, heading upward, shortly before the tower collapsed. His remains were never found.

It will be repeated at 2 AM CST. Please consider recording it.

Also, check out[the New Yorker article](http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2002/02/11/020211fa_fact_stewart) about his actions.

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**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seeking-video-movies-reports-must-sees-about-9-11/634416/20 "2012-09-11T23:15:51Z")

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Yeah, I saw that and have it on record too, thanks! They have a few back-to-back specials; should have known History Channel wouldn’t let me down. 🙂 Have the article tagged as well; thank you.

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