# Seen it: Spider-Man - Into the Spider-Verse **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 10, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908 "2018-12-10T19:41:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![snoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@snoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snoe)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/21 "2018-12-25T22:52:56Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > I think the doylist reason for the last name is so that you know he’s hispanic. The watsonian reason I saw referenced somewhere on line is that his parents are married, but don’t share a last name, and he got really sick of the Miles Davis jokes, so he goes by Mom’s. Thanks — I was wondering this too. Thought maybe they had split up at some point. Loved the movie. Visually great and so well-written. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/22 "2018-12-26T18:59:30Z")
I really liked it…but… I was disappointed by the climax because I wanted something unique to Miles or his experience to actually matter in the final battle. I wanted more than Miles to punchy punchy. Like there is a clear parallel between Miles finding out his beloved uncle is a super villain, and Fisk’s family finding out he’s a super villain… and they didn’t use that at all in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/23 "2018-12-26T22:35:04Z")
I loved it! I’ve seen it twice in 2D and I’m going to see it again in 3D next week. I wish I could have seen it at an IMAX (a REAL one). > [@China\_Guy](#): > > It’s not like this is new technology. simply the first time it has been put together into a pretty great film. In other words, it’s kinda the Star Wars of this generation. Yes, one of the most exciting things about it, long-term, is that it will inspire countless future filmmakers. It may not be tearing up the box office now, but it will be cited so often it will never be forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/24 "2018-12-27T04:14:16Z")
Oh god, I hope that’s not right. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/25 "2018-12-27T04:24:53Z")
> [@JcWoman](#): > > I thought we might have gotten into the 3d movie by accident too. My husband who is a comic fan from way back said that it was a deliberate choice to emulate the poorly-printed-on-cheapest-newsprint old comics. They would run the paper through the printing press several times, once for each color, and it wouldn’t always line up. This. I used to read Spider Man in the newspaper when I was a kid, and that was a pretty common problem. I guess I intuitively understood that. > [@JcWoman](#): > > It was gorgeous. They did just a genius job balancing all of the artistic styles: cross-hatching for shading, actual ink shading, noir grayscale against the burn-your-retinas color of the anime character, cartoon style up against almost-photographic artwork. The animation of the character’s facial expressions was dead-on realistic… I loved it, but my mom doesn’t like animation in general, and I don’t think she’d even be able to sit through this. It was awfully busy. But I loved the characters, I loved the emotional stress and interactions, I loved the music, I loved the graphics when they weren’t too overwhelming, and I loved the homage to actual comic books. Oh, and I liked that Doc Ock was a woman. Really fun movie, I’m glad I saw it. ---
**Author:** ![Lantern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lantern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2018, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/26 "2018-12-27T06:21:12Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > It’s not like this is new technology. simply the first time it has been put together into a pretty great film. In other words, it’s kinda the Star Wars of this generation. Is there a good article or video on the technology used in the film? It looked amazing but how different is it exactly from other CG animated films? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/27 "2018-12-28T02:12:24Z")
I’m also not anti-animation, BTW. Studio Ghibli stuff, most especially “Spirited Away”, is awesome. If this Spidey movie had been hand-drawn, it could have been something great. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/28 "2018-12-29T00:30:09Z")
Just saw it today and I am embarrassed. I was so convinced the movie was in 3D and that none of us were provided glasses, I tried to speak to someone after about getting a partial refund. It was explained to me that it was the style of the movie. I liked the movie, but found the blurred color effect to be not wise. I did like the “comic book texture” look. I also would not have used an odd frame-rate in the slower moments. The movie was good, not amazing. I liked a lot about it. Spider-man Homecoming was much better. My kids, ages 8 and 10, liked it. My son(8) liked it a lot. My daughter(10) thought it was pretty good, but she was a little bit bored. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/29 "2018-12-29T08:17:18Z")
We saw it this evening. Really good. We told our neighbor she should see it, and she said she already tried but walked out on it. She likes some pretty awful crap though, so consider the source. > [@Equipoise](#): > > It may not be tearing up the box office now, but it will be cited so often it will never be forgotten. I dunno. Our viewing was packed, so a lot of people are seeing it. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/30 "2018-12-29T12:14:25Z")
Unfortunately the comments about the style mean that it’s a no-no for me. Pity. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/31 "2018-12-30T03:50:19Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Oh god, I hope that’s not right. Well, time to give up hope because that is exactly right. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/32 "2018-12-30T04:15:47Z")
Saw it tonight with my 9-year-old son and we both loved it. I’d love to see a sequel or even a Miles Morales TV series in a similar style. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/33 "2018-12-30T05:45:16Z")
I was glad to learn there is at least one critic not buying into the alleged awesomeness of the animation (although I liked the other aspects of the movie more than he did): > **[Movie Review — Into the blurred murk of “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse”](https://rogersmovienation.com/2018/12/09/movie-review-spider-man-into-the-spiderverse/)** > >   Yes, that’s how it’s supposed to look. And no, Sony Animation should not have let “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” out its doors and onto big screens in this blurr… > [@](#): > > Yes, that’s how it’s supposed to look. And no, Sony Animation should not have let “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” out its doors and onto big screens in this blurred, jerky, pixelated condition. > > No kidding, six minutes into it, I go track down the studio’s representative at the screening, who had overseen other showings of the film in our market. No, that’s just how it looks, he assures me. > > So did all those folks raving this up on Rottentomatoes watch it off screeners on their home systems? Because this plainly cut-rate enterprise, in which the dot matrix of characters’ CGI is plainly visible on an IMAX screen near you, the action as jerky as 1960s TV anime and action beats that devolve into a “Transformers” blur, is ugly enough on the big screen to spoil a pretty good effort at redefining the comic book movie. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/34 "2018-12-30T10:35:47Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > I was glad to learn there is at least one critic not buying into the alleged awesomeness of the animation …there is nothing “alleged” about other people’s opinions, no matter what this alleged “reviewer” has to say about it. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/35 "2018-12-30T17:20:36Z")
Would you prefer “supposed”? ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/36 "2018-12-30T20:36:34Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Would you prefer “supposed”? …I think that the animation for Into the Spider-Verse was awesome. There is no “supposedly” about it. You are welcome to disagree. You aren’t welcome to tell me my opinion is “alleged” or “supposed”. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/37 "2018-12-30T21:23:12Z")
The frame rate was probably the least successful of their efforts to make the film seem like an animated comic book, and I can understand why it might turn some folks off. But it didn’t bother me in the slightest; indeed, I thought the animation was superb overall. I can’t understand someone calling it unqualifiedly bad. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/38 "2018-12-31T00:25:25Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …I think that the animation for Into the Spider-Verse was awesome. There is no “supposedly” about it. You are welcome to disagree. You aren’t welcome to tell me my opinion is “alleged” or “supposed”. :rolleyes: I suppose I don’t “welcome” your last couple posts either, but I don’t bother griping to you about it, since I have long since made my peace with the fact that people don’t always welcome the things others have to say. To me, the following two statements are functionally equivalent: (1) I was glad to learn there is at least one critic not buying into the supposed awesomeness of the animation. (2) I was glad to learn there is at least one critic who shares my puzzled and strenuous disagreement with all the other critics who say the animation is awesome. ETA: Note that what Paranoid Randroid said is a similar kind of statement, maybe even stronger (“I can’t understand someone calling it”), just on the other side of the opinion spectrum. I’m not offended by that. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/39 "2018-12-31T01:38:07Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > :rolleyes: I suppose I don’t “welcome” your last couple posts either, but I don’t bother griping to you about it, since I have long since made my peace with the fact that people don’t always welcome the things others have to say. …my opinion isn’t “alleged” or “supposed”. As long as you stop insinuating that it is then we are all good. > [@](#): > > To me, the following two statements are functionally equivalent: > > (1) I was glad to learn there is at least one critic not buying into the supposed awesomeness of the animation. > > (2) I was glad to learn there is at least one critic who shares my puzzled and strenuous disagreement with all the other critics who say the animation is awesome. Well they aren’t functionally equivalent. Maybe that’s what you aren’t getting? > [@](#): > > ETA: Note that what Paranoid Randroid said is a similar kind of statement, maybe even stronger (“I can’t understand someone calling it”), just on the other side of the opinion spectrum. I’m not offended by that. While your characterization of Paranoid Randroid’s post is correct: we aren’t talking about “offense.” I’m not offended by your post. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908/40 "2018-12-31T01:46:57Z")
I enjoyed the movie a lot (favorite parts: Aunt May, and when Miles threw a bagel at someone on his way out of a building and the sound effect when it hit was “BAGEL!” That made me giggle way more than it should have.) 🙂 I have to add myself to the list of folks who didn’t like the weird pixel-y out of focus animation style, though. I had the same thought as lots of folks here did: that we wandered accidentally into a 3D movie and they didn’t give us glasses. It was the only thing that kind of ruined an otherwise excellent movie for me. I got used to it eventually, but I would have enjoyed the film a lot more if they hadn’t gone with that choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seen-it-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse/825908.md?page=3)