# Seinfeld: did George steinbrenner ever Object? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 3, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087 "2004-04-03T18:57:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/1 "2004-04-03T18:57:03Z")
…to his portrayals on the SEINFELD TV show? You never saw the guy’s face…he just kept barking out orders at george. If you don’t show somebodie’s face, can you get away with portrayals (without permission?) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/2 "2004-04-03T19:19:07Z")
Don’t have a cite, but I remember reading that Steinbrenner was fine with the characterization. It certainly is far from the worst treatment he has received in the media. Trivia: The voice of Big Stein was done by producer Larry David. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/3 "2004-04-03T19:40:28Z")
No cite, but you’re free to dig up the TV Guide where I read it many years ago but Mr. Evil Empire was actually going to appear on the episode where Susan died and fire George. But he bowed out at the last minute depending on which story you believe: [ul] [li]Story one says that he pulled himself out because his acting was so bad he “didn’t want to embarass himself.”[/li][li]Or story two says that after reading the script and seeing how Susan was offed, he called the writers “sick” and refused to appear.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/4 "2004-04-03T22:48:50Z")
I remember reading that Steinbrenner actually shot a couple of scenes for the finale. He was going to be one of the witnesses in the “Good Samaritan” trial. IIRC, the scene was trimmed because the episode was running too long. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/5 "2004-04-04T08:01:45Z")
> [@Murcielago](#): > > Trivia: The voice of Big Stein was done by producer Larry David. Actually Larry only did it for a while. Lee Bear took over from 1994 until 1998. ([cite](http://imdb.com/name/nm0063849/)) ---
**Author:** ![Murcielago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@Murcielago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Murcielago)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/6 "2004-04-04T10:01:20Z")
> [@Happy Lendervedder](#): > > Actually Larry only did it for a while. Lee Bear took over from 1994 until 1998. ([cite](http://imdb.com/name/nm0063849/)) Damn, another example of the pitfalls inherent to an incomplete education. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/7 "2004-04-04T12:00:23Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I remember reading that Steinbrenner actually shot a couple of scenes for the finale. He was going to be one of the witnesses in the “Good Samaritan” trial. IIRC, the scene was trimmed because the episode was running too long. That’s a shame, Dio, because it could only have helped what I consider to be one of the most disappointing final episodes in TV history. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/8 "2004-04-04T12:10:27Z")
> [@Happy Lendervedder](#): > > Actually Larry only did it for a while. Lee Bear took over from 1994 until 1998. ([cite](http://imdb.com/name/nm0063849/)) No It was always Larry David. Lee Bear sometimes played Steinbrenner’s back. [Cite](http://www.tvtome.com/Seinfeld/season5.html) episode 86. ---
**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/9 "2004-04-04T20:32:34Z")
No cite, but I seem to recall an interview where Big Stein said that his grandkids were MUCH more impressed that he was a “character” on Seinfeld than the fact that he actually owned one of the most storied sports franchises in the world. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/10 "2004-04-05T18:14:02Z")
(Elaine’s boss) Did he ver complain? I really enjoyed that guy…he was far-out yet quite funny! I think the SENFELD show was pretty unique…I never saw real personalities portrayed on a TV show (albeit withgout showing theuir faces). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Redsland](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de0a6/32.png) [@Redsland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redsland)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/11 "2004-04-05T19:24:34Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > (Elaine’s boss) Did he ver complain? I really enjoyed that guy…he was far-out yet quite funny! I think the SENFELD show was pretty unique…I never saw real personalities portrayed on a TV show (albeit withgout showing theuir faces). :rolleyes: I remember reading once that Peterman had no prior knowledge that he’d be a character on the show, but that he didn’t object. ---
**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/12 "2004-04-05T19:40:42Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > That’s a shame, Dio, because it could only have helped what I consider to be one of the most disappointing final episodes in TV history. Disapponting, yes; also depressing as hell. The only thing that remotely saved it, for me, was the _very_ end, the glimpse of Jerry doing his act in prison with Kramer laughing hysterically at every joke and George looking bewildered. Jerry: "So, anybody here from Cell Block D? Voice of inmate: “I’m from Cell Block D…” Jerry: “Really? I’ll speak slower.” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Ross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ross)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/13 "2004-04-06T00:29:51Z")
You didn’t see the SNL special bit? Seinfeld in Oz? That made it all better. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/14 "2004-04-07T05:29:57Z")
> [@Ross](#): > > You didn’t see the SNL special bit? Seinfeld in Oz? > > That made it all better. **Toby Beecher** (_about Vern Schillinger_): First, I was his bitch… then he burned a swastika into my ass… and then I took a crap in his face. And that started a **whole thing**! **Jerry** : Tell me about it. I once dated a girl who I think was always wearing the same dress! ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/15 "2004-04-07T13:39:31Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Or story two says that after reading the script and seeing how Susan was offed, he called the writers “sick” and refused to appear. So… how was Susan offed? Feel free to spoilerbox the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/16 "2004-04-07T13:41:43Z")
She dies licking toxic envelopes for her and George’s wedding invitations. Cheap ones that he insisted on, of course. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/17 "2004-04-07T16:44:56Z")
> [@Moody Bastard](#): > > She dies licking toxic envelopes for her and George’s wedding invitations. Cheap ones that he insisted on, of course. The funniest part of this whole thing is that just before this happened, a similar plot development had occurred on the soap opera _As The World Turns_, where a character named Lily was being deliberately poisoned by her mother-in-law through her stationery. And Kramer referred to Susan as “Lily” after she died because of the similarity. ---
**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-did-george-steinbrenner-ever-object/238087/18 "2004-04-07T17:42:21Z")
:eek: I didn’t know that. “But she _looks_ like a Lily!” -K Man’s defense