# Seinfeld season 5episode 21 - The Hamptons (spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 25, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233 "2014-05-25T12:56:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/1 "2014-05-25T12:56:59Z")

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In this episode the gang are visiting friends and Jerry’s girlfriend sees George naked and thinks he has a small penis and she tells George’s girlfriend and she leaves.

To get revenge on her George cooks eggs with lobster in them and feeds them to her (she is Jewish and can’t eat lobster)  
Never liked that George did this. Normally when Goerge does something “bad” it is his response to frustration at some wacky part of society or something. Normally I see that George isn’t acting like a normal person might, but I can understand where he is coming from and sometimes sympathize with how he reacts to the unfair restraints society places on us

But this is just the most straight-up malicious thing George has done. I don’t like him for it.

thought/comments?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/2 "2014-05-25T13:23:23Z")

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I don’t like him because he pees in the shower.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/3 "2014-05-25T13:25:31Z")

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I don’t like that you feel you have to write “Spoilers” when you’re talking about a 20 year old episode of Seinfeld.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/4 "2014-05-25T13:32:49Z")

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Peeing in the shower is innocuous

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/5 "2014-05-25T14:05:10Z")

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It turns out that she’s a hypocrite anyway, as Kramer later catches her in the kitchen looking for leftovers.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/6 "2014-05-25T14:07:17Z")

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That was before George fed her lobster

She was tempted but didn’t give in

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/7 "2014-05-25T14:09:30Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> Peeing in the shower is innocuous

Says you.

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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/8 "2014-05-25T14:10:41Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> In this episode the gang are visiting friends and Jerry’s girlfriend sees George naked and thinks he has a small penis and she tells George’s girlfriend and she leaves.

Yeah, but she didn’t compensate for shrinkage. Her loss, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/9 "2014-05-25T14:11:59Z")

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Anyway even if you think peeing in the shower is wrong, George came off more as inconsiderate than malicious

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/10 "2014-05-25T14:23:47Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Says you.

Objections to peeing in the shower are absurd.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/11 "2014-05-25T14:31:18Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Objections to peeing in the shower are absurd.

It was in the shower room at the gym.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/12 "2014-05-25T14:32:58Z")

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It’s all pipes!

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/13 "2014-05-25T15:42:39Z")

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What happens in the pool stays in the pool. Or you get fed lobster.

Jerkdom fought with Jerkdom. Its a wash IMO.

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**Author:** ![CheshireKat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheshirekat/32/1207_2.png) [@CheshireKat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheshireKat)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/14 "2014-05-25T15:43:28Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> Anyway even if you think peeing in the shower is wrong, George came off more as inconsiderate than malicious

So in your mind it’s merely _ **inconsiderate** _ to knock down children and an old lady in order to save yourself in a fire?

😃

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/15 "2014-05-25T15:55:24Z")

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I think the OP is right- it’s one of the few examples I can think of where George deliberately sets out to get back at someone. Mostly when he hurts people it’s a side effect of selfishness, cluelessness or social ineptitude.

Maybe the Bubble Boy was another example- didn’t he provoke him on purpose or something? It’s been awhile…

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/16 "2014-05-25T15:58:20Z")

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> [@CheshireKat](#):
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> So in your mind it’s merely _ **inconsiderate** _ to knock down children and an old lady in order to save yourself in a fire?

What _looked_ like pushing – what _looked_ like knocking down – was a safety precaution! In a fire, you stay _close to the ground,_ amirite? … I risked my life making sure that exit was clear!

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**Author:** ![Loopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loopus/32/15343_2.png) [@Loopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopus)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/17 "2014-05-25T16:05:23Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Maybe the Bubble Boy was another example- didn’t he provoke him on purpose or something? It’s been awhile…

Not really. George was just _really_ insistent that the answer to the Trivial Pursuit question was “Moops,” since that’s what it said on the card. Bubble Boy got really angry because he knew the answer was “Moors,” and the card had a typo. They were both being stubborn and overly competitive, but neither one was really being malicious… at least until Bubble Boy decided he had to choke a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/18 "2014-05-25T16:16:22Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> But this is just the most straight-up malicious thing George has done. I don’t like him for it.
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> thought/comments?

I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to like him for it. While I agree with you that most of George’s bad behavior was not due to deliberate malice, he was generally not a very nice person and it doesn’t seem out of character to me that he’d seek revenge for some slight. I think he did so on other occasions as well, although the only example springing to mind is “The Comeback”, where he made a special trip to Ohio just to deliver the “jerk store” comeback. That’s not as bad as tricking someone into violating their religion’s dietary restrictions, but since George presumably knows other Jewish people who eat lobster (Jerry didn’t have a problem with it, did he?) he may have seen it more as bringing a holier-than-thou type down a peg than doing something really offensive.

EDITED TO ADD: I just remembered a better example of George seeking revenge, in the aptly titled episode “The Revenge”. George rashly quit his job, and when his boss refused to let him return (and insulted him) George decided to get revenge by showing up at an office party and spiking the boss’s drink.

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**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/19 "2014-05-25T16:22:40Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> I think the OP is right- it’s one of the few examples I can think of where George deliberately sets out to get back at someone. Mostly when he hurts people it’s a side effect of selfishness, cluelessness or social ineptitude.
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> Maybe the Bubble Boy was another example- didn’t he provoke him on purpose or something? It’s been awhile…

It was the Moops, OK? The Moops!

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/20 "2014-05-25T16:22:55Z")

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> [@Loopus](#):
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> Not really. George was just _really_ insistent that the answer to the Trivial Pursuit question was “Moops,” since that’s what it said on the card. Bubble Boy got really angry because he knew the answer was “Moors,” and the card had a typo. They were both being stubborn and overly competitive, but neither one was really being malicious… at least until Bubble Boy decided he had to choke a bitch.

You’re Right- like I said, it’s been a looooong time!  
The spiked punch was a good one, though.

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