# Seinfeld season 5episode 21 - The Hamptons (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 25, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233 "2014-05-25T12:56:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/21 "2014-05-25T16:57:52Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to like him for it. While I agree with you that most of George’s bad behavior was not due to deliberate malice, he was generally not a very nice person and it doesn’t seem out of character to me that he’d seek revenge for some slight. I think he did so on other occasions as well, although the only example springing to mind is “The Comeback”, where he made a special trip to Ohio just to deliver the “jerk store” comeback. That’s not as bad as tricking someone into violating their religion’s dietary restrictions, but since George presumably knows other Jewish people who eat lobster (Jerry didn’t have a problem with it, did he?) he may have seen it more as bringing a holier-than-thou type down a peg than doing something really offensive. > > EDITED TO ADD: I just remembered a better example of George seeking revenge, in the aptly titled episode “The Revenge”. George rashly quit his job, and when his boss refused to let him return (and insulted him) George decided to get revenge by showing up at an office party and spiking the boss’s drink. He also tried to seduce his cousin in order to get back at his parents for ignoring him (“The Junk Mail”). ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/22 "2014-05-25T17:13:01Z")
Just remember George saved a whale, countering all the other things he ever did to mankind. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/23 "2014-05-25T17:39:37Z")
For the record, he was also responsible for his fiance’s death, and felt little-to-no remorse for it afterward. But cooking a little lobster into someone’s eggs makes him the truly bad person? It’s all just George being George. Self-centered and giving little thought to other people’s feelings or well-being, to all of our amusement. From peeing in the public shower to using the story of his dead fiance (along with a picture of his best friend’s girlfriend) to get laid-- he’s just a crappy little person. But his character is a classic. He just doesn’t give a shit, which deep down, most of us sort of envy. The lobster in the eggs? It’s just a classic revenge scenario. Don’t we all have those fantasies, even if we don’t carry them out? ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/24 "2014-05-25T18:56:19Z")
I think trying to slip his boss a mickey, which is probably a felony, is considerably worse than tricking someone into eating lobster. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/25 "2014-05-25T19:07:52Z")
Having Jerry call in a bomb threat to Yankee Stadium probably would be considered a felony as well. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/26 "2014-05-25T19:18:58Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I don’t like that you feel you have to write “Spoilers” when you’re talking about a 20 year old episode of Seinfeld. In PSXer’s world, it just came out last week. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/27 "2014-05-25T19:38:29Z")
Like a frightened turtle! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BEnKLhi83J8/hqdefault.jpg "Seinfeld - The Shrinkage") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEnKLhi83J8) ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/28 "2014-05-25T20:02:44Z")
He didn’t do anything wrong with Susan’s death though it was an accident. Pushing people out of the way in a fire is done in a panic not a planned act of trying to hurt someone. And he was angry at bubble boy and acted in anger in a fit of emotion. He didn’t have time to think about it and plan a revenge on him. Planning to seduce his cousin to get revenge on his parents is bad I guess that’s another example. ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/29 "2014-05-25T22:01:40Z")
Starting around season 4 and continuing thru season 5, George became an unbelievable jerk. Before and after he was mostly quirky, odd, easily panicked, etc. But in this era, he was completely awful. E.g., in _The Outing_ (“Not that’s there’s anything wrong with that.”) He breaks up Jerry’s makeout session with the girl by trying to pretend (again) that they are a gay couple so he can get out of a relationship. The girl walks out. This and dozens of other incidents George causes just made me scream “No one would be friends with this guy!” at the TV. The OP’s scene is just yet another one of those. Kramer was at least interesting at times so that hanging out with him once in a while lead to the odd adventure. What did George contribute? In particular, why on Earth would Jerry let George anywhere near his proposed sitcom? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/30 "2014-05-25T22:08:22Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Starting around season 4 and continuing thru season 5, George became an unbelievable jerk. Yeah? Well, the jerk store called and they’re all outa YOU! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/31 "2014-05-25T22:24:16Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0KmTTy_MM5w/hqdefault.jpg "Seinfeld- The jerk store called (the comeback)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmTTy_MM5w) ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/32 "2014-05-25T22:48:10Z")
The jerk store was just friendly ribbing ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/33 "2014-05-25T23:28:55Z")
The one time I think George was 100% in the right was when he called out a hospital for letting a guy jump off their roof onto his car. They tried to make him into a jerk for daring to ask them to pay for the damage. Of course they should pay for his damage! ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/34 "2014-05-26T00:18:58Z")
In one episode George disconnected the IV of a hospitalized burn victim. This was because George was trying to steal his girlfriend but she decided to stay with the burn victim rather than move in with George. This can’t compare to the evil of sneaking shellfish into someone’s scrambled eggs or peeing in the shower, but attempted murder still can’t be considered one of his finest moments. ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/35 "2014-05-26T00:59:39Z")
Maybe if she was allergic to shellfish, but because it’s just a superstitious belief that really isn’t going to affect her beyond absorbing the nutrition from a lobster and eliminating waste, George didn’t actually do anything more malevolent than mislead her. ---
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/36 "2014-05-26T11:37:36Z")
I agree, it was a shellfish act. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/37 "2014-05-26T12:45:05Z")
> [@mr.jp](#): > > I agree, it was a shellfish act. For the win! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/38 "2014-05-26T13:01:20Z")
OP, I never thought a conversation about Seinfeld could feel so tedious and argumentative, but you did it. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/39 "2014-05-26T13:34:08Z")
Well, George did relate a story to Corbin Bernsen about how he let his girlfriend’s cat starve to death, then refused to buy her a “whole new cat”. ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/40 "2014-05-26T14:42:49Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > This and dozens of other incidents George causes just made me scream “No one would be friends with this guy!” at the TV. The OP’s scene is just yet another one of those. > > Kramer was at least interesting at times so that hanging out with him once in a while lead to the odd adventure. What did George contribute? > > In particular, why on Earth would Jerry let George anywhere near his proposed sitcom? Because in-show Jerry Seinfeld is a jerk himself, and he surrounds himself with other jerks. Seinfeld is a show about unpleasant people. That’s why they all had to go to prison in the series finale. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233.md?page=3)