# Seinfeld season 5episode 21 - The Hamptons (spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 25, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233 "2014-05-25T12:56:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/41 "2014-05-26T16:10:30Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Because in-show Jerry Seinfeld is a jerk himself, and he surrounds himself with other jerks. Seinfeld is a show about unpleasant people. That’s why they all had to go to prison in the series finale. Except for the real life one. 🙂 HOW COULD YOU TRADE JAY BUHNER?! HOW COULD YOU GIVE TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS TO HIDEKI IRABU? ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/42 "2014-05-26T17:09:53Z")
How big of a deal is this? Wasn’t Jerry eating the lobster and eggs with lobster? She was one of my least favorite of Jerry’s girlfriends. Making jokes at the expense of someone sitting across the table is really catty, no matter what the reason. I didn’t care for her self pity for having to eat kosher and later for sneaking off to break her rules in the cover of night if it wasn’t for Kramer catching her. What George did was reprehensible. But the kosher rules are so complicated it must be hard to not accidentally break them a few times a month for some people. Even though there is no excusing George’s actions, she came out even with Kramer protecting her from herself and George giving her what she wanted. If she was more pious it would have been a bigger deal. Instead it rates about the same as Puddy finding out he is going to hell with Elaine. ---
**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/43 "2014-05-26T17:29:31Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Because in-show Jerry Seinfeld is a jerk himself, and he surrounds himself with other jerks. Seinfeld is a show about unpleasant people. That’s why they all had to go to prison in the series finale. Prison?! _WHAT?!_ Why didn’t you put that in a spoiler box!?! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/44 "2014-05-26T17:37:11Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Because in-show Jerry Seinfeld is a jerk himself, and he surrounds himself with other jerks. Seinfeld is a show about unpleasant people. That’s why they all had to go to prison in the series finale. Real life Jerry is something of a jerk, too. Most memorable to me is he started dating a woman (now wife) he knew from his health club a couple weeks after she got married. You don’t start up with a woman who just got back from her honeymoon. He previously dated a 17 year old high school student when he was nearly 40. Squick. Anyway, there’s being a full-time jerk and then there’s being a part-time jerk with other interesting qualities. The other 3 were the latter. George was the former for a large chunk of the middle of the series. Jerry and Larry didn’t see them as jerks but as children who never learned. A bit of a debatable difference. Another George crime: He stole his father’s cruisewear and sold them. The issue of the old man’s record collection that he and Kramer stole is a bit ambivalent. The guy told them to take them, but the son hadn’t approved. Taking with permission from someone who may not be in full mental health isn’t good. ---
**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/45 "2014-05-26T17:45:22Z")
To be honest, Jerry’s jerk-ness always seemed very random and sporadic to me. For the majority of the show, he played the role of the “straight man” - he represented an average, sane person surrounded by lunatics. But then once in a while in a store or whatever he’d make a huge scene over some inconsequential detail. Then again, maybe he just seemed stable because all his friends were even more obviously crazy. Hmm . . . ---
**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/46 "2014-05-26T17:46:32Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > The issue of the old man’s record collection that he and Kramer stole is a bit ambivalent. The guy told them to take them, but the son hadn’t approved. Taking with permission from someone who may not be in full mental health isn’t good. That was just a misunderstanding. The old guy thought he was telling Kramer to take away actual garbage when Kramer was asking about his records. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/47 "2014-05-26T17:58:34Z")
Jerry stopped eating the eggs when George reveals his treachery. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/48 "2014-05-26T20:15:09Z")
> [@Svejk\_1](#): > > Because in-show Jerry Seinfeld is a jerk himself, and he surrounds himself with other jerks. Seinfeld is a show about unpleasant people. That’s why they all had to go to prison in the series finale. The Seinfeld 4 were victims in the finale and throughout much of the show’s run. Most people started out being jerks to them and they had to keep up or get run over. ---
**Author:** ![malaka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@malaka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malaka)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/49 "2014-05-27T20:26:30Z")
Just dropped in to share my favorite line from the series: “Jerry, it’s Frank Costanza. Mr. Steinbrenner’s here … George is dead… Call me back.” ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/50 "2014-05-29T00:28:42Z")
He attempted to cheat on his fiance with Marissa Tomei. I’m not sure if that makes him bad because cheating or not bad because hey, it’s Marissa Tomei, quite the looker at the time. Also he stole a girl’s clock once. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/51 "2014-05-29T15:30:56Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > In one episode George disconnected the IV of a hospitalized burn victim. This was because George was trying to steal his girlfriend but she decided to stay with the burn victim rather than move in with George. > > This can’t compare to the evil of sneaking shellfish into someone’s scrambled eggs or peeing in the shower, but attempted murder still can’t be considered one of his finest moments. He was just cutting off the man’s pain-killers, he wouldn’t die for a long time from not having a saline drip. Not until after they came around to replace it. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/52 "2014-05-29T16:54:21Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > He was just cutting off the man’s pain-killers, he wouldn’t die for a long time from not having a saline drip. Not until after they came around to replace it. Torture is so much better than attempted murder. ---
**Author:** ![LateComer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5ac83/32.png) [@LateComer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LateComer)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/53 "2014-05-29T16:59:35Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > The jerk store was just friendly ribbing I SLEPT WITH YOUR WIFE! Maybe there should be a thread about just bad advice received from Kramer. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/54 "2014-05-29T17:03:54Z")
> [@LateComer](#): > > I SLEPT WITH YOUR WIFE! > > Maybe there should be a thread about just bad advice received from Kramer. Stupid Kramer Idea of the Day? ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/55 "2014-05-29T17:07:22Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > The Seinfeld 4 were victims in the finale and throughout much of the show’s run. Most people started out being jerks to them and they had to keep up or get run over. Maybe that was true of Jerry and Kramer. But George was a jerk first a good 90% of the time, and Elaine instigated things plenty of times. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/56 "2014-05-30T09:04:12Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I don’t like that you feel you have to write “Spoilers” when you’re talking about a 20 year old episode of Seinfeld. Well, I thought it was amusing. Which I think was the intent. ---
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233/57 "2014-05-30T09:29:14Z")
that wasn’t bad advice from Kramer. “I slept with your wife” is a great insult 999 times out of 1000. George just had bad luck [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/seinfeld-season-5episode-21-the-hamptons-spoilers/689233.md?page=2)