# Selection of the new Democratic Presidential Ticket **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542 "2024-07-21T18:09:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/41 "2024-07-21T20:33:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Divided conventions do not go well. “And all the Democrats are united!” Joe Manchin: “Well, except for me.” “And all the _Democrats_ are united…” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/42 "2024-07-21T20:33:51Z")
> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#): > > I have to believe that the Republicans are feeling a bit queasy about this. > > They were locked in so hard - and feeling (rightly) so confident - on the prospect of trouncing Biden. > > This is a new rodeo. That last is true- but no one polled as well vs trump than Biden. Harris came a close second. > [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Politics of him posting that aside, it means Harris might not get Biden’s campaign money. Certainly a signal for R’s to challenge it in some way. Most donations went to Biden/Harris, not just Biden. Or they went to the DNC. > [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Late: House Speaker Mike Johnson says if Democrats replace Biden at this late stage, Republicans will file lawsuits challenging ballot access in every state. (per Politico) See? > [@Red\_Wiggler](#): > > This is indeed a valid concern. But millions of misogynists who voted against Clinton aren’t around to do it again. According to 538 back then- the three reasons Clinton lost were- Comey memo, Relentless hate campaigning, and poor election strategy. Clinton being a woman was a small part of #2, it was not really significant. > [@flurb](#): > > Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett shitting on her colleagues for pushing out Biden and saying that she’ll ONLY support Harris. Good on her. > [@We\_re\_wolves\_not\_werewolves](#): > > She’s not particularly intelligent, not charismatic, and has the stink of Biden on her. So, Harris is really smart- she has both a PhD and a JD. She is plenty charismatic, and Biden has no 'stink". He withdrew due to his health. > [@Aeschines](#): > > Woman vs. misogynist who picked a flagrant, flaming misogynist as his VP. You forget trump= proven sexual assault . ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/43 "2024-07-21T20:36:31Z")
> [@CoolHandCox](#): > > Late: House Speaker Mike Johnson says if Democrats replace Biden at this late stage, Republicans will file lawsuits challenging ballot access in every state. (per Politico) I don’t quite understand this. Is it Biden who is qualified to be on the ballot or the Democratic nominee? Because there isn’t a Democratic nominee yet. That won’t happen until the convention. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/44 "2024-07-21T20:39:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Harris is really smart- she has both a PhD and a JD. This is kinda like that speech about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor, but VP Harris doesn’t have a PhD. She’s still quite smart, though. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/45 "2024-07-21T20:45:06Z")
> **Pretty off-topic response hidden my What Exit?.** > > > [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > > > If I was her, I’d be hiring a coach to help me practice my Saint Crispin’s Day voice. > > I’m a big Shakespeare fan, but that speech does nothing for me, nor do I think Branagh comes off as anything other than his usual pretentious self doing it (IMHO). ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/46 "2024-07-21T20:45:53Z")
Dayum. More please! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/47 "2024-07-21T20:47:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You forget trump= proven sexual assault . The man has so much sin and crime, it’s hard to remember it all! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/48 "2024-07-21T20:48:33Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > She’s still quite smart, though. Yes. The only thing “dumb” that Harris ever did was laugh in a way that some people didn’t like. If the nazis think they’re facing a fool this time, they are going to learn a harsh lesson. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/49 "2024-07-21T20:50:32Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > I don’t quite understand this. Is it Biden who is qualified to be on the ballot or the Democratic nominee? Because there isn’t a Democratic nominee yet. That won’t happen until the convention. Presumably because the petition requirements were fulfilled under Biden’s name, etc., technicality something something… Of course the nazis are gonna be dicks, since they’re nazi dicks. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/50 "2024-07-21T20:54:08Z")
> [@Aeschines](#): > > The only thing “dumb” that Harris ever did was laugh in a way that some people didn’t like. She’s had some fairly bizarre proposals and speeches, not much of a resume in Senate and mixed as AG or DA, and lots of stories of first campaign and then staff unhappiness and infighting. Again, people can point to all that and the rest of her 2020 primary run as reasons why they think she might be a poor choice without getting into race or sex or more superficialities. Heck, she got taken apart by Tulsi Gabbard of all people in a debate. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/51 "2024-07-21T21:02:26Z")
> **Summary** > > > [@Aeschines](#): > > > > nor do I think Branagh comes off as anything other than his usual pretentious self doing it (IMHO). > > I’m curious that you seem to believe that only Branagh, in the last 425 years, is eligible to considered as a representative performer of Henry V. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/52 "2024-07-21T21:03:57Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/53 "2024-07-21T21:04:32Z")
**Moderating** : No, just no. This is not the thread for this. I will hide your post to prevent further hijacking. I need posters to work with the moderators a little here. Just because someone posted something not on-topic doesn’t mean you can post something even more off-topic. This is not the thread for acting questions. You can of course take your discussion to a new thread, probably in #Cafe Society ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/54 "2024-07-21T21:06:38Z")
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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/55 "2024-07-21T21:08:58Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > She’s had some fairly bizarre proposals and speeches, not much of a resume in Senate and mixed as AG or DA, and lots of stories of first campaign and then staff unhappiness and infighting. Fair enough, but there isn’t a single thing that I’ve heard of that people can point to that is outrageous or all that interesting. Her supposed weakness as Border Czar is probably the biggest thing the opposition have on her. The thing about that, however, is that Biden was a rock-bottom _terrible_ communicator on this issue. Constantly getting pummeled about it and not saying anything at all. Harris can at least _talk about_ it now and present points in her favor. (I actually don’t know what the administration’s position is on the border or their interpretation of their record. Communication has been that bad.) > [@](#): > > Again, people can point to all that and the rest of her 2020 primary run as reasons why they think she might be a poor choice without getting into race or sex or more superficialities. She been VP for going on four years, however. And from what I’ve seen, she grown into that job and executive branch skills in general. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/56 "2024-07-21T21:13:06Z")
Trivia note: Assuming that Harris is the nominee, she will be the first Democratic Presidential nominee _ever_ from West of the Mississippi. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/57 "2024-07-21T21:15:23Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Assuming that Harris is the nominee, she will be the first Democratic Presidential nominee _ever_ from West of the Mississippi. That actually sounds fairly damning for the Democrats. Not that it’s stopped them from winning but it sure sounds like a blind spot. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/58 "2024-07-21T21:17:06Z")
I’d think of it more as an odd coincidence than a blind spot. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/59 "2024-07-21T21:17:37Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Trivia note: Assuming that Harris is the nominee, she will be the first Democratic Presidential nominee _ever_ from West of the Mississippi. Lyndon B. Johnson . ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/60 "2024-07-21T21:18:14Z")
Damn, you’re right. Trivia note withdrawn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542.md?page=4)