# Selection of the new Democratic Presidential Ticket

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [July 21, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542 "2024-07-21T18:09:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/61 "2024-07-21T21:20:07Z")

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> **Summary**
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> > [@Moriarty](#):
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> > This is kinda like that speech about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor, but VP Harris doesn’t have a PhD. She’s still quite smart, though.
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> No PhD obviously. And it shouldn’t need to be said, but well educated does not equate to being smart…look at George W. for chrissakes

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/62 "2024-07-21T21:22:24Z")

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**Moderating** , stay on topic. George W. is not on topic.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/63 "2024-07-21T21:28:05Z")

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President Biden’s main campaign committee just changed its name from “Biden for President” to “Harris for President,” in a letter [it just sent](https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00703975/1805325/) to the Federal Election Commission.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/64 "2024-07-21T21:30:43Z")

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And of course, FOX is braying that Obama hasn’t endorsed Harris yet so clearly the Dems don’t like her.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/65 "2024-07-21T23:37:15Z")

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Obama stated he wasn’t going to endorse anyone/remain neutral until they were officially the nominee, as he usually does.

Not sure if it’s the time for that, but that is Obama’s history.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/66 "2024-07-21T23:37:42Z")

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Link to article listing endorsements to date for Harris.

> **[All the Democrats who have endorsed Kamala Harris to replace Joe Biden after...](https://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-endorsing-kamala-harris-to-replace-joe-biden-2024-7)**
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> After Joe Biden dropped out of the race and endorsed Kamala Harris, several Democrats also threw their support behind the VP to replace him.

It looks pretty coordinated to me, to show the party coalescing around Harris before the (other) top Dems endorse her. I bet once it’s pretty clear that’s happening, Obama and Pelosi and the other top people in the party throw in as well, and it’s done.

ETA: maybe Obama waits again. I’d forgotten that from last time. I’d hope that if she is heading in uncontested he would do it.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/67 "2024-07-21T23:38:27Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Lyndon B. Johnson .

I just stopped by to mention George McGovern of South Dakota.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/68 "2024-07-21T23:43:30Z")

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That’s a long list with very high-profile Democrats. I had hoped Biden dropping and a quick Harris is the replacement process would happen. But didn’t expect it to happen in mere hours. Clean as you could hope for.

Also seeing about $30million in new donations so far today. That’s a lot.

Late: Couldn’t find Newsom on that article, but he recently has endorsed Harris.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/69 "2024-07-21T23:48:44Z")

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Legal Eagle addresses the issues with replacing the candidate;

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mPt-4Eqr35I/maxresdefault.jpg "What Happens Now That Biden Dropped Out?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPt-4Eqr35I)

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/70 "2024-07-21T23:57:15Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> Trivia note: Assuming that Harris is the nominee, she will be the first Democratic Presidential nominee _ever_ from West of the Mississippi.

Gee, the last I looked, Missouri and Arkansas are west of the Mississippi. I guess the river shifted a lot while I wasn’t looking.

Edit: Deleted stuff about VP choice since that is the subject of a different thread.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/71 "2024-07-22T00:20:16Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Gee, the last I looked, Missouri and Arkansas are west of the Mississippi. I guess the river shifted a lot while I wasn’t looking.

All of us being wrong stipulated, I suspect there’s a lot of people in the Mountain and Pacific zones that don’t really feel like Missouri, Arkansas, and even Texas are really anything but the east (and to some degree the south).

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/72 "2024-07-22T00:22:20Z")

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I think I must have been thinking she was first candidate from _California_ and conflated it. Mea culpa.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/73 "2024-07-22T00:30:48Z")

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Ronald Reagan was from California.

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As was Nixon, but @Thing.Fish was talking about Democratic candidates.

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**Moderating** : He was Republican and not Democrat **and enough of this sidebar now off of some incorrect trivia.**

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Ah right. And yes.

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/77 "2024-07-22T00:43:21Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Process questions.
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> Biden’s delegates are released.
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> What is required to have your name up for consideration at the convention be it in person or virtual (and I suspect it will be virtual on a hurry up time line)?

And what will the process even be for those that are on the list. Is it purely down to the feeling of the delegates themselves? Is there any process (other than the pleas of the DNC establishment) to get them to vote for a particular now the winner of the primary is out of the running? They are not obliged to vote for whoever came second?

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/78 "2024-07-22T00:47:58Z")

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I like Kamala more after seeing this anecdote from Glenn Kirschner about her. She has little bronzed claker balls for both Bill Barr and Brett Kavanaugh on her desk.  
[https://youtu.be/4QYbIAo6Db4?t=330](https://youtu.be/4QYbIAo6Db4?t=330)

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**Post date:** [July 22, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selection-of-the-new-democratic-presidential-ticket/1004542/79 "2024-07-22T00:52:23Z")

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> [@griffin1977](#):
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> Is there any process (other than the pleas of the DNC establishment) to get them to vote for a particular now the winner of the primary is out of the running? They are not obliged to vote for whoever came second?

Nope. The delegates are free to vote their conscience. But they are overwhelmingly loyal party men and women, and if it’s clear that party leaders have coalesced on Harris then that’s who they’re going to vote for.

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They are released and serve as the representatives of those who voted for them to vote for whichever candidate they choose.

Step one of course will be if there is anyone else throwing their hat in the ring. I’ll be surprised if anyone else does. That 300 delegate threshold eliminates the fringe folk.

I’m expecting a steady drip of all the other major names endorsing her and then a call to have a virtual roll as scheduled before the crazy Ohio deadline just to avoid that silliness.

The convention itself will be a no surprises affair.

Fill up the news cycles with Harris support piling on, a town hall in which Harris (and any other nominee if any) answers questions to earn the nomination, the news of the virtual roll call given no one else running, and a scripted convention.

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