# Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 6, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347 "2020-10-06T15:59:07Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 25, 2020, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/381 "2020-11-25T21:18:34Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> After reading the article it is clear that you did not understand it, it showed that I was correct and prominent Asian Americans do understand why your opinion is flawed and supported the measure, just as the Asians involved in the universities also think that you are wrong too.
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> In any case, a lot of ignorance was there about the proposition, anyone that concludes there was no support for it is willfully ignoring how confusing the proposition was.

There was plenty of support. About 43.4% supported it and 56.6% opposed it.

This is the THIRD TIME that California has rejected affirmative action. When are the progressives going to be able to phrase the questions clearly enough to get Californians to vote in favor of race based preferences. Isn’t it possible that most people, even most liberals don’t actually like race based preferences.

“Prominent Asians” what the fuck are those? Are they the spokesmen for all asians or something? The movement has had 25 years to 'educate" the ignorant masses about why race based discrimination is good for them. They’re not buying it. You might as well say that Californians were too ignorant to vote for trump. The ballot measure lost by a 10% margin. The margin among asians was even larger. Isn’t it possible that these academics have it wrong and race based preferences are a bad idea.

> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> BTW, one should notice that that article is not really a counter to what I said, Asians in academic circles that are involved in increasing diversity do understand that the people against increasing diversity are getting it wrong.

So the asian academics that are in favor of increased diversity for diversity’s sake think that the asians that are not in favor of increased diversity for diversity’s sake are getting it wrong? Pfft. So?

The majority of a state like California failed to vote for race based preferences despite a 25 year campaign to reinstate race based preferences and their best argument is that the voters didn’t understand what they were voting for? Isn’t it possible that California doesn’t want race based preferences?

Anyhow… Created different thread if you want to discuss this further without derailing this thread too much.

> [@California Prop 16 (reinstating affirmative action) fails](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/california-prop-16-reinstating-affirmative-action-fails/926439):
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> California has rejected affirmative action as it is practiced today. California legislators tried to ride the wave of anti-trump sentiment to push through a measure repealing a constitutional amendment that prohibits the consideration of race in things like college admissions at its state schools. The state voted 65% for Biden and 55% against reinstating affirmative action. I would suggest that the popular support for affirmative action (AS IT IS PRACTICED TODAY) is not popular with the mai…

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