# Selective Magnet School in Virginia moving towards a lottery system

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 6, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347 "2020-10-06T15:59:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/selective-magnet-school-in-virginia-moving-towards-a-lottery-system/922347/51 "2020-10-07T17:54:25Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> They’re also concerned with percentages. If you can come up with a fair and equitable way to increase enrollment for black and Hispanic kids without raising it for white kids, I’m all ears.

They are not at all concerned with percentage increases, they are concerned with overall percentages. The overall percentage of whites increase at the expense of asians. How do you justify this?

At least you seem to be recognizing that this is not a fair and equitable way to increase black/hispanic admissions. We will call that progress. Now, if we could only get you to recognize that discrimination against asians is unacceptable.

If you want to increase black/hispanic admissions then have a set aside for kids on free-reduced lunch. Or have set asides for kids coming from title 1 schools. This would shift the burden of your social engineering from asian kids to white kids. But that is probably why it would never have the political traction that this bill has.

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This doesn’t need to remove any kids at all. Just start it with the next class year to enter the school.

The studies done by FCPS specifically point out that asian admissions will shrink and black/hispanic/white admissions will increase. How do you justify rejecting more accomplished asians to make room for less accomplished white kids?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Or maybe it’s the fault of our broader racist and biased culture and society, which doesn’t give black and Hispanic (and probably Native American too) students the same level of opportunities that other students have. Considering all the data and statistics, I find that far more likely than some sort of inferiority, cultural or otherwise, in black and Hispanic kids.

Considering how dominant asian kids are in this arena, your reasoning would imply that society is actually favoring asian kids over white kids, by a lot. Why would the powers that be in virginia do this?

> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’m guessing. If I guess wrong, I apologize. I’m just assuming someone with a lot of close friends and family who are black or Hispanic would be upset by a top-notch school in a very diverse area like NoVA that had almost zero black and Hispanic students. I find that unacceptable. If you don’t, why is this okay?

Why would someone with lots of close black and hispanic friends and family be upset that the most selective school in virginia has a low black/hispanic population? Academics are not the only measure of a person’s worth.

I don’t like the racial imbalance but I do not believe that a disparity in results equal racism absent some actual evidence of racism. What brand of racism is causing the underrepresentation of hispanic students while at the same time causing overrepresentation of asian students?

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