# Sen. John McCain has Died

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 26, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281 "2018-08-26T00:25:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/21 "2018-08-26T01:34:43Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> A few months ago he said that he wanted Obama to be one of the people to deliver a eulogy and that he didn’t want Trump to attend the funeral at all.

He also wanted George W. Bush to speak.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/22 "2018-08-26T01:40:32Z")

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Did McCain speak up about Obama’s Supreme Court nominee not being given a hearing?

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/23 "2018-08-26T01:41:39Z")

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Trump made a statement:

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> My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you!

> **[Trump Reacts To John McCain's Death](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-john-mccain-death_n_5b8038a4e4b0cd327dfc699a/amp)**
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> From the early days of his campaign, the president was often at odds with Sen. McCain.

At least he didn’t cover himself with disgrace this time.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/24 "2018-08-26T01:42:35Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I agree with you both. RIP Mr. McCain.

Same here.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/25 "2018-08-26T01:46:01Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I predict Obama will deliver a classy eulogy that will be remembered for a long, long time.

He will.

I disagreed with John McCain on many issues, but I appreciated his dedication to collegiality to the end.

In addition to his concession speech, McCain made a speech to donors in October 2008 (I was unable to locate it on youtube) that I saw this past week praising Obama’s historic run that moved me to tears.

Our nation will miss him.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/26 "2018-08-26T01:56:16Z")

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He served his country as he best saw fit, from the pits of captivity to the halls of power. What he saw as best was not necessarily what I would, and no man is perfect and when the stakes are high mistakes are magnified; but as was said earlier, it was the disagreement of a committed opponent, not of a hated enemy.

May his family find strength and comfort.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/27 "2018-08-26T01:57:28Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’ve always considered John a honorable man that served his country well. First in the military and then in Congress.
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> He had his flaws and I sometimes disagreed with his positions. But, he was a man of character and solid principles.
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> I’ll miss hearing John’s strong voice on various issues.
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> My heart goes out to his family and I wish them well.  
> R.I.P.

Did he help or hinder single payer health care?  
How did he vote on lowering taxes on the wealthy?  
As I said, I honor him for staying in a NV POW camp when they offered to release him, but a pretty snake is still a snake.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/28 "2018-08-26T02:38:03Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> I almost voted for him…until he chose Palin as his running mate.  
> I think he would have been a good president. Although he was pretty partisan, he seemed to be closer to the middle than most of the current crop of republicans.

Same here. I was undecided in 2008, until I looked at Palin. She’s the one who pretty much lost McCain my vote.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/29 "2018-08-26T02:45:59Z")

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I give him a big pass for staying in a North Vietnamese hellhole when he could have propaganda’d himself out based on his father. I didn’t always agree with him, and there were a few skeletons in the closet. That said: fair winds sailor

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/30 "2018-08-26T02:46:22Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> He was nonetheless a Republican and opposed to fair taxes and fair health care.

However, when Eddie Munster held up that disingenuously titled “American Health Care Act” designed to kill Obamacare, Captain Wetstart sided with Lisa and Susan to abort it.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/31 "2018-08-26T04:34:54Z")

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Rest in peace, Senator.

His death has hit me particular hard. The husband of a close friend of mine has the same type of cancer and last week he decided to discontinue treatment.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/32 "2018-08-26T05:05:27Z")

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Fucking cancer did what the goddamn North Vietnamese couldn’t do.

What a life this guy had. Jumping from his aircraft as flames race toward him and bombs ignite on the deck of The Forrestal, getting shot down, beaten and tortured. Kept himself alive and eventually ran for the President of the United States.

What a story. Whatever you think of his politics, he’s someone to admire, in my book.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/33 "2018-08-26T12:19:21Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> I predict Obama will deliver a classy eulogy that will be remembered for a long, long time.

On the other hand, I fully expect Trump to say something totally classless on Twitter (if he hasn’t already).

I had a lot more respect for MCain than I do for the vast majority of Republicans. RIP Senator.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/34 "2018-08-26T13:13:38Z")

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> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> Read somewhere else that Obama will deliver a eulogy. Hope that’s true.
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> [Obama’s statement](https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/barack-michelle-obama-statement-john-mccain-passing-491727801.html)

McCain asked both Obama and GW Bush to do so. Trump will not attend.

RIP.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/35 "2018-08-26T15:35:17Z")

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Whatever else there is to say about John McCain as a politician, war hero, etc., I thought he was pretty good as an [SNL host](https://ew.com/tv/2018/08/25/john-mccain-best-saturday-night-live-moments/).

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/36 "2018-08-26T16:18:59Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> McCain asked both Obama and GW Bush to do so. Trump will not attend.
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> RIP.

So he requested that the guy who whooped him in the 2000 GOP presidential primary-- whose campaign utilized some very questionable smear techniques-- and the guy who whooped him hard in the 2008 presidential election, to give his eulogy. But the current president isn’t even invited.

That says something.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/37 "2018-08-26T18:43:17Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Whatever else there is to say about John McCain as a politician, war hero, etc., I thought he was pretty good as an [SNL host](https://ew.com/tv/2018/08/25/john-mccain-best-saturday-night-live-moments/).

[McCain encounter with a self proclaimed “fake reporter”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v5b_lcQFSs) on the campaign trail showing a good sense of humor at an opportunity to take a shot at Karl Rove.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/38 "2018-08-26T20:05:16Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> So he requested that the guy who whooped him in the 2000 GOP presidential primary-- whose campaign utilized some very questionable smear techniques-- and the guy who whooped him hard in the 2008 presidential election, to give his eulogy. But the current president isn’t even invited.
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> That says something.

Was Trump not invited? Or does he simply choose not to attend? I don’t know how Trump would dare to show his face when he said that he prefered “Heroes” who didn;t get captured.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/39 "2018-08-26T20:08:05Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Was Trump not invited? Or does he simply choose not to attend? I don’t know how Trump would dare to show his face when he said that he prefered “Heroes” who didn;t get captured.

McCain specifically said he doesn’t want Trump to attend.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sen-john-mccain-has-died/820281/40 "2018-08-26T20:21:14Z")

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I may not have agreed with his politics, but he was a decent man.

Godspeed, sir.

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