# Senate blocks repeal of DADT

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 9, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585 "2010-12-09T21:34:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/101 "2010-12-18T20:42:32Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Bill passed 65-31.
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> I didn’t catch which 2 Senators changed their position from the cloture vote.

Was it 2 who changed their vote or 2 who didn’t vote on cloture.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/102 "2010-12-18T20:51:14Z")

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The two senators who changed their position were Richard Burr (R-NC) and John Ensign (R-NV). Both had voted against cloture.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/103 "2010-12-18T20:55:03Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> The two senators who changed their position were Richard Burr (R-NC) and John Ensign (R-NV). Both had voted against cloture.

That’s so gay!

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/104 "2010-12-18T20:55:57Z")

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Yes, it got worse to John McCain…

[http://vodpod.com/watch/4921769-it-gets-worse-psa-the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-11152010-video-clip-comedy-central](http://vodpod.com/watch/4921769-it-gets-worse-psa-the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-11152010-video-clip-comedy-central)

What a sad spectacle to see a senator go downhill and that he does not mind that he will be the one recognized by posterity as the [del]bad guy[/del] troglodyte in the future historical documentaries on this issue.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/105 "2010-12-18T21:06:09Z")

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I’ve got CNN on and for some reason when they mentioned Sec Gates’ name, I envisioned it spelled: Gayts.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/106 "2010-12-18T21:07:24Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> The two senators who changed their position were Richard Burr (R-NC) and John Ensign (R-NV). Both had voted against cloture.

Ensign? Well how about that. He’s a C Street Pentecostal.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/107 "2010-12-19T00:31:30Z")

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Time to modify the thread title from “Blocks” to “Delays,” no?

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/108 "2010-12-19T00:43:28Z")

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_cartwheels through thread_

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/109 "2010-12-19T01:29:08Z")

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Oh my god! It’s done! 😃 😃 😃

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/110 "2010-12-19T01:38:00Z")

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Here’s the votes

BARRASSO WY R NO  
COBURN OK R NO  
COCHRAN MS R NO  
CORKER TN R NO  
CORNYN TX R NO  
DeMINT SC R NO  
GRAHAM SC R NO  
GRASSLEY IA R NO  
HUTCHISON TX R NO  
INHOFE OK R NO  
ISAKSON GA R NO  
JOHANNS NE R NO  
KYL AZ R NO  
LeMIEUX FL R NO  
LUGAR IN R NO  
McCAIN AZ R NO  
McCONNELL KY R NO  
RISCH ID R NO  
ROBERTS KS R NO  
SESSIONS AL R NO  
SHELBY AL R NO  
THUNE SD R NO  
VITTER LA R NO  
WICKER MS R NO  
ALEXANDER TN R NO  
BENNETT, ROBERT UT R NO  
BOND MO R NO  
BROWNBACK KS R NO  
CHAMBLISS GA R NO  
CRAPO ID R NO  
ENZI WY R NO = 31  
KERRY MA D YES  
AKAKA HI D YES  
BAYH IN D YES  
BEGICH AK D YES  
BENNET, MICHAEL CO D YES  
BINGAMAN NM D YES  
BOXER CA D YES  
BROWN, SCOTT MA R YES  
BROWN, SHERROD OH D YES  
CANTWELL WA D YES  
CASEY PA D YES  
CONRAD ND D YES  
COONS DE D YES  
DORGAN ND D YES  
DURBIN IL D YES  
ENSIGN NV R YES  
FEINGOLD WI D YES  
FEINSTEIN CA D YES  
FRANCKEN MN D YES  
GILLIBRAND NY D YES  
HAGAN NC D YES  
HARKIN IA D YES  
INOUYE HI D YES  
JOHNSON, TIM SD D YES  
KIRK IL R YES  
KOHL WI D YES  
LANDRIEU LA D YES  
LAUTENBERG NJ D YES  
LEAHY VT D YES  
LEVIN MI D YES  
LIEBERMAN CT I YES  
LINCOLN AR D YES  
McCASKILL MO D YES  
MENENDEZ NJ D YES  
MERKLEY OR D YES  
MIKULSKI MD D YES  
MURKOWSKI AK R YES  
MURRAY WA D YES  
NELSON, BILL FL D YES  
NELSON, BEN NE D YES  
PRYOR AR D YES  
REED, JOHN RI D YES  
REID, HARRY NV D YES  
ROCKEFELLER WV D YES  
SANDERS VT I YES  
SHAHEEN NH D YES  
SHUMER NY D YES  
SNOWE ME R YES  
SPECTER PA R YES  
STABENOW MI D YES  
TESTER MN D YES  
UDALL, MARK CO D YES  
UDALL, TOM NM D YES  
VOINOVICH OH R YES  
WARNER VA D YES  
WEBB VA D YES  
WHITEHOUSE RI D YES  
WYDEN OR D YES  
BAUCUS MN D YES  
BURR NC R YES  
CARDIN MD D YES  
CARPER DE D YES  
COLLINS ME R YES  
DODD CT D YES  
KLOBUCHAR MN D YES = 65  
BUNNING KY R   
GREGG NH R   
HATCH UT R   
MANCHIN WV D  
Pardon the lack of columns.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/111 "2010-12-19T01:43:12Z")

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How long before the military becomes completely fabulous? They’ll have to do something about those uniforms, right? So drab.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/112 "2010-12-19T02:03:50Z")

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Remember how the congresscritters voted when 2012 rolls around…

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/113 "2010-12-19T03:49:56Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I’m not.
> 
> But you only think I am because of your failure to read my posts.
> 
> If you had read the one in this very thread where I said:
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> … then you might have realized that I’m NOT arguing that this is not the right time. To the contrary, I am absolutely in agreement that now IS the right time.

Thanks, **Bricker** : now I know that the post I quoted, without alteration, was just a sham and had _nothing_ to do with your other post referencing a decade 80 years later, which, of course, should have been obvious to everyone. So now your “should blacks have been allowed into the army in 1917?” question should be read in _support_of the argument that gays should be allowed into the military right now. Which I thought I’d demonstrated, but apparently not.

Thanks for explaining that. I was too limited in my own perception to realize that what you actually meant to say in this thread is: “Yes, gay persons should be allowed to serve in the military without any restrictions whatever, just as black Americans should have been integrated equally into the military by 1917, no matter that a certain number of loud bigots opposed it.”

I’ve got it right now, don’t I?

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-blocks-repeal-of-dadt/563585/114 "2010-12-19T04:09:21Z")

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Manchin blew off the session entirely. Went to a christmas party instead. Isn’t that nice?

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