# Senate nominee from Missouri Todd Akin is a feeble-minded moron. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 19, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993 "2012-08-19T19:50:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/201 "2012-08-22T00:29:30Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > But if their rapist DID strap them down and forced them to have an abortion, what really could anyone in this liberal society? There are NO LAWS against your scenario! Which is why we need to outlaw swing sets, for chrissake. Won’t anyone think of the children? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/202 "2012-08-22T01:51:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And a gift from Jesus? The one I learned about in Sunday School, with the glow and the beautiful auburn hair and neatly trimmed beard, loves all the little children of the world, that Jesus? Sends a rapist to give you a _gift_? These people must have gone to Sunday School in a meth lab. That’s been stolen, and put in a Facebook post. Just thought I’d let you know. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/203 "2012-08-22T02:45:25Z")
Praise Cthulu! ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/204 "2012-08-22T03:22:01Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > ETA: I’ll add that this is why I think Akin might not be quite as “dead in the water” as some folks think. He was 10 points up before this, and there are plenty of conservative Christians in MO that will still vote for him. And a not-insignificant percentage will actually agree with his underlying point. Perhaps. Of course, Clayton Willions was up over 20 points on Ann Richards at one point, and his rape comment was clearly just a bad joke, not a horrendously ignorant statement regarding proposed policy. OTOH, that was 1990, it’s entirely possible that conservatives have regressed that much since then. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/205 "2012-08-22T03:32:31Z")
> [@grude](#): > > I don’t care about this issue at all but do people really believe DNA is morally tainted or degenerate? . . . Alas, this view is more prevalent than any educated person might think. There really are people who think that criminality is heritable. Worse, they hold a kind of Lamarckian view, such that the children of someone who hadn’t yet committed a crime are okay, but the children of the same parents, after one of them has committed a crime, are more susceptible to criminality. And, specifically, that it’s “in the blood.” It’s just something people say – and not just in Bible Belt states. “That family? Tainted blood. Nothing good ever came of a ---------.” (One might think that they are speaking of learned traits, rather than genetic ones. Until you find them tracing out lineages of distant cousins. “No…his aunt was a ---------- by birth, so those cousins carry the taint.” Like it’s something out of Dunwich…) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/206 "2012-08-22T03:59:38Z")
Well, I’m just pleased that I gave you guys an opportunity to congratulate yourselves about something. Those Discovery Channel hours finally paid off, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/207 "2012-08-22T04:02:13Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Maybe he should have a discussion with himself so he can keep his cockamamie stories straight. You said COCK! No diploma for you! ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/208 "2012-08-22T10:46:31Z")
Why are ya’ll forcibly assaulting poor Todd Akin? He’s the real victim! Here’s my proof:: “Bryan Fischer, a conservative radio host and an official with the American Family Association, compared Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), to a rape victim Tuesday, after Akin’s controversial comments about “legitimate rape” prompted a wave of outrage toward the Missouri Senate candidate. “You talk about a forcible situation, you talk about somebody being a victim of forcible assault, that would be Todd Akin,” Fischer said.” [http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/bryan-fischer-compares-todd-akin-to-a-rape-victim-video.php?ref=fpnewsfeed](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/bryan-fischer-compares-todd-akin-to-a-rape-victim-video.php?ref=fpnewsfeed) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/209 "2012-08-22T13:15:16Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Is it just me or does there seem to be some kind of assumption that pregnant rape victims are being forced to have abortions or something? No, I haven’t seen that. Akin and Huckabee and others are just responding to the concept that a woman shouldn’t have to bear the child of someone who rapes her. A[decent number of pro-lifers agree with that (or maybe I should say a number of decent pro-lifers agree with that), but many don’t.](http://news.yahoo.com/where-todd-akin-paul-ryan-agree-disagree-abortion-203227413.html) That group includes Paul Ryan and its view are reflecteded in the 2012 Republican Party platform, as they have been for years. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/210 "2012-08-22T13:56:49Z")
> [@grude](#): > > I don’t care about this issue at all but do people really believe DNA is morally tainted or degenerate?:dubious: If your father was a rapist I don’t think that reflects a damn thing about you. > > IS this the limit of foot in mouth politician statements? I mean how much further out into insanity can you get than saying rape doesn’t result in pregnancy? Next he will clarify that if a woman got pregnant during a rape it was because she secretly enjoyed it:smack: I mean this is so far beyond the pale it seems like parody. Well yes. My mother had me out of wedlock, and it was assumed by many people I would be exactly the same, loose morals and all that. It carries through the blood, they say. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/211 "2012-08-22T14:06:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > No, I haven’t seen that. Akin and Huckabee and others are just responding to the concept that a woman shouldn’t have to bear the child of someone who rapes her. Actually, they are _refusing_ to respond to that concept, by making up a bunch of idiotic mumbo jumbo to deny that it ever happens. Oh, and in other news [Sarah Palin calls for a third-party run against Akin](http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Palin-Akin-Steelman-Missouri/2012/08/22/id/449340): > [@](#): > > Calling Missouri “a must win state” for Republicans this year, Sarah Palin is pushing for a third party candidate to enter the Senate race if embattled GOP nominee Todd Akin continues to insist on staying in… > > Palin told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren Tuesday night that her pick to replace Akin would be former Missouri State Treasurer Sarah Steelman, the candidate she backed in the Republican primary against him. > > She suggested Steelman could still enter the race as a third party candidate, running on the slogan she introduced in the primary, “The status quo has got to go.” > > “I won’t gloat about it, but I was right,” the former Alaska governor said, referring to her backing of Steelman over Akin… This story is a perfect distillation of the Palin phenomenon: ignorance (she obviously never heard of Missouri’s “sore loser” law that bars failed primary candidates from the general-election ballot), vapidity (“The status quo has got to go”?? What, no “Hey Hey Ho Ho”?), and ego (“I won’t gloat about it, but I was right” – neener neener!). ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/212 "2012-08-22T14:09:54Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Actually, they are _refusing_ to respond to that concept, by making up a bunch of idiotic mumbo jumbo to deny that it ever happens. Ok, yes, that’s what Akin did. But if you exclude believers in the superintelligent uterus theory, that’s what some of them are responding to. They don’t think rape victims are being forced to have abortions, they think rape victims shouldn’t have a choice about their pregnancies. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/213 "2012-08-22T14:18:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > For rapes that result in pregnancy, the study cited in post #57 found the following categories of rapists involved: > > Another study points out there is some reasoning behind the disparity of numbers that has nothing to do with mythical “stress-related biological defenses,” and everything to do with rapists and their victims. Younger victims – teens – are more likely to not be taking regular oral contraceptives, and are also more likely to be victimized by relatives or non-strangers. So the incidence of pregnancies resulting from rape skews towards lower-age victims, even though, as the study clinically reports, the fecundity of younger females is not as great as adult women. Also, an older woman is more likely to be in a committed relationship and if a rape results in her pregnancy, chances are very few people will ever know that child was a “rape baby”…the woman and her partner may not even know for sure and may prefer not to know. I would even go so far as to suggest that the alleged paucity of “rape babies” is not due to biology but to the fact that many pregnant women, regardless of whether they choose to get an abortion or to carry the child to term, never acknowlege to strangers, the government, or the Republican Party the fact of the child being a “rape baby”. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/214 "2012-08-22T14:19:22Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > No, I haven’t seen that. Akin and Huckabee and others are just responding to the concept that a woman shouldn’t have to bear the child of someone who rapes her. A[decent number of pro-lifers agree with that (or maybe I should say a number of decent pro-lifers agree with that), but many don’t.](http://news.yahoo.com/where-todd-akin-paul-ryan-agree-disagree-abortion-203227413.html) That group includes Paul Ryan and its view are reflecteded in the 2012 Republican Party platform, as they have been for years. My mother is one of those who believe that there should be no exceptions in the case of rape. I have no idea what she would think if she knew one of her daughters, a fine upstanding Christian, had an abortion. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/215 "2012-08-22T14:35:30Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > Why are ya’ll forcibly assaulting poor Todd Akin? He’s the real victim! Here’s my proof:: > “Bryan Fischer, a conservative radio host and an official with the American Family Association, compared Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), to a rape victim Tuesday, after Akin’s controversial comments about “legitimate rape” prompted a wave of outrage toward the Missouri Senate candidate. “You talk about a forcible situation, you talk about somebody being a victim of forcible assault, that would be Todd Akin,” Fischer said.” > > [http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/bryan-fischer-compares-todd-akin-to-a-rape-victim-video.php?ref=fpnewsfeed](http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/bryan-fischer-compares-todd-akin-to-a-rape-victim-video.php?ref=fpnewsfeed) I say we deny him an abortion and make him carry the remark to term. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/216 "2012-08-22T14:45:26Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > This story is a perfect distillation of the Palin phenomenon: ignorance (she obviously never heard of Missouri’s “sore loser” law that bars failed primary candidates from the general-election ballot), … Huh. I did not know that. A quick trip down Wiki Lane reveals that most states have either a “sore loser” law or have the registration deadlines for the primary and general election on the same day to effectively prevent sore loser campaigns (although those rules typically don’t apply to presidential campaigns). Wiki says that the only states that allow sore loser campaigns are CT, IA, VT, and NY. I had no idea. You learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/217 "2012-08-22T14:49:55Z")
Why oh why didn’t the Missouri GOP listen when the Tea Party voters said “Don’t nominate Akin, he’s bound to say something about rape that would be translated into legislation in a way we agree with?” ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/218 "2012-08-22T14:52:58Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > Why are ya’ll forcibly assaulting poor Todd Akin? He’s the real victim! Here’s my proof:: > “Bryan Fischer, a conservative radio host and an official with the American Family Association, compared Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), to a rape victim Tuesday, after Akin’s controversial comments about “legitimate rape” prompted a wave of outrage toward the Missouri Senate candidate. “You talk about a forcible situation, you talk about somebody being a victim of forcible assault, that would be Todd Akin,” Fischer said.” It’s OK, I heard from a doctor that people who are “forcibly assaulted” are protected against the consequences. I won’t go into the details as it is very technical, but it has something to do with juices and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/219 "2012-08-22T15:30:03Z")
Fuck. My cousin just posted this on her face book. > [@](#): > > “A woman’s choice for her own body does not include the right to deprive her baby of life—and a lifetime of choices that her child would make.” Russell M. Nelson Nelson is one of the Mormon top leaders, so my cousin is spouting Mormon lines to support this fool. Ever wonder why I fled to Japan to get the hell out of Salt Lake? And it’s time to unfriend her and block this woman. This pisses me off even more because her father was a sexual predator, and molested at least one other cousin from a different family, as well as committed statutory rape with underage junior high school student in his care. He was finally found with kiddie porn. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993/220 "2012-08-22T15:40:21Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > Fuck. My cousin just posted this on her face book page:“A woman’s choice for her own body does not include the right to deprive her baby of life—and a lifetime of choices that her child would make.” I disagree with this, but it is at least something on which you can have an opinion. What I don’t get is how people can continue to defend this guy when he spouts absurd medical theories with not only no evidence, but plenty of studies that have conclusively shown he is wrong. We even have people who are the _result_ of a rape coming out and backing this moron. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senate-nominee-from-missouri-todd-akin-is-a-feeble-minded-moron/631993.md?page=12)