# Senator accuses Obama of trading in hard hat for "Hipster Fedora." **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 29, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397 "2012-02-29T22:09:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/21 "2012-03-02T22:29:37Z")
Is it true, by the way, as a friend of mine claims, that hipsters have by now co-opted not just trilbys, fedoras and New Eras but in fact… _EVERY kind of hat in the known universe_? So that there now is _NO_ type of hat a man could wear without having to assume that passersby will take him for a hipster? ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/22 "2012-03-02T22:42:23Z")
> [@Steken](#): > > So that there now is _NO_ type of hat a man could wear without having to assume that passersby will take him for a hipster? I am pretty sure that you could get away with wearing a [Tam o’ Shanter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_o%27_Shanter_%28cap%29) without being accused of hipsterism (at least by any rational observer). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/23 "2012-03-02T22:44:33Z")
> [@Sudden\_Kestrel](#): > > I am pretty sure that you could get away with wearing a [Tam o’ Shanter](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam_o%27_Shanter_%28cap%29) without being accused of hipsterism (at least by any rational observer). Also, those big Q-Tip hats the guards at Buckingham wear. Other than that, it’s all hipster. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/24 "2012-03-02T22:50:42Z")
> [@Steken](#): > > Is it true, by the way, as a friend of mine claims, that hipsters have by now co-opted not just trilbys, fedoras and New Eras but in fact… _EVERY kind of hat in the known universe_? > > So that there now is _NO_ type of hat a man could wear without having to assume that passersby will take him for a hipster? If the rest of your clothing makes you look like a douchebag then yes you’re going to be mistaken for a hipster. If a man in his forties (or older) is wearing a fedora with a suit do you really think he’s a hipster? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/25 "2012-03-02T23:02:19Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > If the rest of your clothing makes you look like a douchebag then yes you’re going to be mistaken for a hipster. > > If a man in his forties (or older) is wearing a fedora with a suit do you really think he’s a hipster? Here’s [a man in his 40’s](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=jack+abramoff&um=1&hl=en&client=ubuntu&sa=N&channel=fs&biw=1069&bih=900&tbm=isch&tbnid=0KJS7Rlyd13tYM:&imgrefurl=http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2009/05/13/kevin-spacey-cast-as-jack-abramoff-in-actual-movie/&docid=oCcnjHD-gnl0LM&imgurl=http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/fedora.jpg&w=554&h=420&ei=K1FRT5PfK5Kutwfpm6jTDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=779&vpy=204&dur=370&hovh=190&hovw=251&tx=104&ty=75&sig=104503252200905362306&page=1&tbnh=157&tbnw=205&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0) whose wearing a fedora, who is a douchebag and yet is not a hipster. (also, firefox’s spell check should really recognize the word douchebag, its like the third most frequently used word on the internet) ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/26 "2012-03-02T23:09:23Z")
> [@Steken](#): > > Is it true, by the way, as a friend of mine claims, that hipsters have by now co-opted not just trilbys, fedoras and New Eras but in fact… _EVERY kind of hat in the known universe_? > > So that there now is _NO_ type of hat a man could wear without having to assume that passersby will take him for a hipster? [When everyone is hipsters, no one will be.](http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/27 "2012-03-02T23:15:48Z")
> [@Pyper](#): > > The fedora favored by hipsters is the [trilby.](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/4077711239_3030391111.jpg) Yes, a trilby is a narrow-brimmed fedora. A porkpie, unlike fedoras and trilbys, has a crown with a circular cross-section. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/28 "2012-03-03T01:18:28Z")
Thanks to everyone for the explanations. I feel informed. I’d say I feel hipper, but that’s just not possible. ---
**Author:** ![velvetjones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5f9b8f/32.png) [@velvetjones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velvetjones)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/29 "2012-03-03T02:04:14Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > **BAND NAME!** > > Too soon? > Come on it’s been like forever since anybody did that. Thank you. someone had to do it. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/30 "2012-03-03T02:16:12Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Depends if it was ironically or not. Do you get more drunk if you drink ironically? ---
**Author:** ![scratch\_llll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@scratch\_llll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scratch_llll)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397/31 "2012-03-03T02:56:44Z")
But are we certain that’s what Orin said? It could have been something similar and simply misunderstood because he hadn’t spit out the oil executives pecker. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-accuses-obama-of-trading-in-hard-hat-for-hipster-fedora/614397.md?page=1)