# Senator Judd **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 10, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539 "2013-03-10T06:45:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/41 "2013-03-22T19:59:57Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I think she’d be the only Senator with a _Star Trek_ credit on her resume. THANKS OBAMA! f ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/42 "2013-03-22T22:20:12Z")
Hmm. [Judd](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Judd) has a master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. That ought be useful in the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/43 "2013-03-23T01:55:00Z")
I’m an ® buy if I were a Kentuckian I would vote for her. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/44 "2013-03-27T21:20:36Z")
[Ashley’s out.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/03/27/ashley-judd-is-not-running-for-senate/) A shame, really. Like I said before, she didn’t have a shot, but since nobody else does either at least it would have been fun. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/45 "2013-03-27T23:22:09Z")
[CNN.com](http://CNN.com)’s article on her decision not to run: [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27/ashley-judd-wont-run-for-senate/?hpt=hp\_c3](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/03/27/ashley-judd-wont-run-for-senate/?hpt=hp_c3) ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/46 "2013-03-27T23:55:22Z")
Sounds like the right choice. This thread convinced me that a Judd run was a worse idea then it seemed initially. McConnell is probably not going anywhere, but he does have low approval ratings and the Dems do have a decently deep bench in KY, so there is a small, non-trivial chance of beating him. Silly to throw that away, especially given how close a thing control of the Senate is likely to be next Congress. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/47 "2013-04-01T15:12:12Z")
[How Kentucky Democrats Duped the MSM and Helped Elbow Out Ashley Judd.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/01/how-kentucky-democrats-duped-the-msm-and-helped-elbow-out-ashley-judd.html) Article by a Judd adviser. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/48 "2013-04-01T15:16:37Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [How Kentucky Democrats Duped the MSM and Helped Elbow Out Ashley Judd.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/01/how-kentucky-democrats-duped-the-msm-and-helped-elbow-out-ashley-judd.html) Article by a Judd adviser. Eh, if she can’t stand up to some rumour mongering before she even enters the race, she wasn’t going to last long in the actual campaign. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/49 "2013-04-01T19:03:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > [How Kentucky Democrats Duped the MSM and Helped Elbow Out Ashley Judd.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/01/how-kentucky-democrats-duped-the-msm-and-helped-elbow-out-ashley-judd.html) Article by a Judd adviser. The guy ends the article claiming that a Democratic civil war over the nomination was a “false narrative”, yet that’s exactly what he was describing. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/50 "2013-04-09T14:49:52Z")
I know this is all done now, but Mother Jones obtained a tape of a McConnell strategy session on how to deal with a candidate Judd. Wow, this would have been really nasty. Seriously. [Take a peek.](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/mitch-mcconnell-ashley-judd-secret-tape-senate) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/51 "2013-04-09T15:41:59Z")
Now the FBI’s involved: [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/09/breaking-fbi-asked-to-probe-secret-recordings-of-mcconnell-meeting/?hpt=hp\_t2](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/09/breaking-fbi-asked-to-probe-secret-recordings-of-mcconnell-meeting/?hpt=hp_t2) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/52 "2013-04-09T15:42:23Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I know this is all done now, but Mother Jones obtained a tape of a McConnell strategy session on how to deal with a candidate Judd. Wow, this would have been really nasty. Seriously. Actually, it would have been comedy gold. > [@Ashley Judd](#): > > The last time I came home from a trip, I absolutely flipped out when I saw pink fuzzy socks on a rack. I mean, I can never anticipate what is going to push me over the edge. If she is afraid of socks, I suspect she would be highly entertaining in a Senate campaign. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/53 "2013-04-10T03:53:36Z")
Wonder who bugged the office. It really could be anyone though Mother Jones getting it suggests a left winger but who knows. Disgruntled staffer maybe? And Judd would have been a terrible candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/54 "2013-04-10T03:55:40Z")
Maybe the guy who infiltrated that Romney “47% of Americans are lazyass motherfuckers looking for a handout” campaign fundraiser did it. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/55 "2013-04-10T06:18:17Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Wonder who bugged the office. The McConnell campaign has no evidence indicating the office was bugged. The McConnell folks are in “Smoke Screen” mode. Until evidence is produced that the office was bugged I would think the _smart thing_ to do is assume one of the people in the room recorded the conversation. That isn’t illegal or bugging in any way. As soon as evidence is found showing there was anything remotely resembling a Nixonian/Watergate style bugging you can count on me denouncing it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/56 "2013-04-10T06:19:09Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Now the FBI’s involved: [http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/09/breaking-fbi-asked-to-probe-secret-recordings-of-mcconnell-meeting/?hpt=hp\_t2](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/04/09/breaking-fbi-asked-to-probe-secret-recordings-of-mcconnell-meeting/?hpt=hp_t2) Curiously, the FBI appears to be investigating the **source** of the recording rather than the **content.** ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/57 "2013-04-10T06:39:39Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Curiously, the FBI appears to be investigating the **source** of the recording rather than the **content.** Duh, Senator McTurtle knows what the content is so of course it makes sense he will be snapping at the heels of whoever released the recording! ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/58 "2013-04-10T11:40:20Z")
A [quick perusal](http://www.fixyourthinking.com/2004/01/recording-phone-call-laws-by-state.html) shows that Kentucky is a “one party notification” state- so if the person who recorded the conversation was there in person, no laws were broken. Assuming, of course, that I read that link correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/59 "2013-04-10T12:59:21Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Curiously, the FBI appears to be investigating the **source** of the recording rather than the **content.** Why would the FBI investigate the content? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539/60 "2013-04-10T13:14:21Z")
Hard to imagine who made the recording. It doesn’t really seem worth the risk for an anti-McConnell group to reveal they have a bug in his office. Everyone could more-or-less assume a conversation like this took place even without the recording, and Judd’s not even running for office in any case. Damage done is minimal, risk of getting caught and arrested is non-trivial, and if your going to go to the trouble of bugging the office, why not wait and see if you can get something more damaging, or at least relevant to the actual Dem candidate. On the other hand, its hard to believe one of McConnell’s inner circle is slipping Mother Jones slightly embarrassing audio recordings of their boss. Even if they were pissed at McConnell, this seems like a bizarrely passive-aggressive way to go about dealing with it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senator-judd/652539.md?page=4)