# "Send lawyers, guns and money" original to Warren Zevon?

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**Created:** [February 20, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/send-lawyers-guns-and-money-original-to-warren-zevon/1014586 "2025-02-20T18:01:21Z")\
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Or was it a term in use already? Has to be the best phrase ever about being in trouble!

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Zevon may have been inspired by a [19th Century song](https://folksongandmusichall.com/index.php/macdermotts-war-song/) touting the might of the British Empire:

_We don’t want to fight but by Jingo if we do,  
We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men, we’ve got the money too_

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ChatGPT says about “The shit has hit the fan”: The earliest known written reference is from the “U.S. military during World War II”. No attribution so probably not a flag officer. Admiral Farragut is famous for “Damn the torpedoes … full speed ahead!” and General Anthony Clement “ **Nuts** ” McAuliffe once said something he’s remembered for.

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Sounds like something Hunter Thompson might have written, although the phrase sounds earlier than Warren Zevon.

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From [Riots, Civil and Criminal Disorders: Hearings Before the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations of the Committee on Government Operations, United States Senate](https://www.google.com/books/edition/Riots_Civil_and_Criminal_Disorders/hVBKAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0), 1968:

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/yLJGgSX.png "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/yLJGgSX)

Probably coincidental, but who knows? Maybe Zevon picked up the theme from reading this transcript at some point. Marijuana is a suitable fourth item.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/send-lawyers-guns-and-money-original-to-warren-zevon/1014586/6 "2025-02-24T16:08:55Z")

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Lawyers, guns and money are three things a spoiled rich kid might beg his dad to send if he was in a jam in a Central American country. I’m sure Zevon wrote the song independently, but I’m also sure you could find the list elsewhere.
