# Senor Beef and his crusade against knowledge **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743 "2013-05-07T21:08:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/221 "2013-05-08T21:44:10Z")
> [@Anonymous User](#): > > Completely off-topic but you are a scientist? I must ask out of curiosity, what field? We’re all scientists here, son. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/222 "2013-05-08T21:43:19Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, my ONLY mention of the book was “But really, this show is going WAY to much into the torture. The books simply implied, never actually detailed it while it was occurring.” My point was that HBO was showing too much excessive & gratuitous torture, a point made by several others. Now the defense for HBO would be “Well, they are just doing what’s in the books’ but you see, that’s NOT in the books. So, I wasn’t discussing what’s IN the books so much as what was NOT in the books. And, dozens of posters have mentioned in those threads that HBO has added a lot of nudity, etc. > > And here is the well reasoned response from Senor Beef “_For fucks sake, no one mention the word “book” in these threads ever again. You add nothing to the discussion and you just fucking open it up to stupid squabbling again. THE BOOKS DO NOT EXIST IN THESE THREADS, stop talking about them in any context, and stop trying to argue the policy. “_ So if anything, rather than me “\* over-exaggerated his stance”\* as you claimed- I toned down his actual anti-book stance. I had to. No one would beleive me if I posted his actual stance and beliefs. I love that you fail to realize you’re proving my earlier analogy really is spot on. Ahem: > [@](#): > > I just thought of the perfect analogy. SenorBeef and DrDeth are two siblings in the backseat of the family car. DrDeth keeps poking SenorBeef until SenorBeef yells to stop touching him. Then DrDeth holds his finger an inch away from SenorBeef’s face and repeatedly says “i’mnottouchingyoui’mnottouchingyou i’mnottouchingyoui’mnottouchingyoui’mnottouchingyou i’mnottouching you.” **Then SenorBeef has to add a bunch of different things DrDeth is not to do, which WOULD sound like an overreaction until you see that DrDeth will do his damnedest to find any fucking loophole for the sole reason of pissing off SenorBeef. And then have the brass balls to bitch about how unreasonable and stupid SenorBeef is.** ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/223 "2013-05-08T22:05:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > But damn, I knew they got all excited and Jr Mod to the max, but to have them hitting “report this post’ like a rat jonesing for a smoke is a little crazy. You’re the one breaking the fucking rules to annoy people. Why shouldn’t they report the posts? (And yeah, I know - you didn’t mean to do it this time, but that doesn’t cover the other times.) Anyway if you’re asking why I care, that’s the reason. You acting like a dick in GoT threads = we have a mess to clean up. > [@](#): > > But since this is really annoying _you_ , I’ll stop. _Fine._ ---
**Author:** ![Shooby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Shooby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shooby)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/224 "2013-05-08T22:09:42Z")
The wikipedia article for “[tempest in a teapot](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_in_a_teapot)” needs to replace itself with a link to this thread. I was looking forward to a tongue-in-cheek Da-Vinci-Code-style conspiracy theory involving Senor Beef and Steam/Windows/Bill Gates, but instead it’s… this thread. Jesus H. R’hllor. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/225 "2013-05-08T22:09:45Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > This is the second time you’ve said you “had to”. You don’t “have to” make a complete and utter ass of yourself. Really. You don’t. Not here, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/226 "2013-05-08T22:26:18Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > This thread reminds me of when \*\*mswas \*\*went full retard. On that basis, I find it a success. I felt bad about that. I liked him until…well, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weaver_of_Nightmares)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/227 "2013-05-08T22:30:14Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > We’re all scientists here, son. Or Doctors, if you know the right group to have dinner with once a month. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/228 "2013-05-08T22:32:36Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Just like this thread is rather beneath me (I never PIT other posters). > [@DrDeth](#): > > Huh? Now, I admit this thread is a fuckwit stunt of sort (aren’t all PITings of Posters?) Why do you keep capitalizing “Pit”? It’s not an acronym, you know. Also, it would be “pit_t_ings”, as one who’s so anti-illiteracy should realize. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/229 "2013-05-08T22:36:31Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I am truly sorry about my post in the GoT thread. Note the actual wording but that it was in one of “his” threads as I really truely never wanted to grace any of his shittly little piles of self-aggrandizement again. I wouldn’t piss in his mouth to put out a fire. > I still think Senor Beef is an illiterate power mad asshole. But since this is really annoying _you_ , I’ll stop. What’s funny is that (among all the other idiocies) you keep repeating that, but the fact is that **SenorBeef** did not even start that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/230 "2013-05-08T23:00:27Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Stupid as this PIT thread may be, there’s not a day goes by without something even dumber. So- why come down from your Ivory Tower to post about this? In my opinion, you’re conviction is near kozmik territory ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/231 "2013-05-08T23:28:16Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Huh? Now, I admit this thread is a fuckwit stunt of sort (aren’t all PITings of Posters?), but honestly the other post was a complete oops. But damn, I knew they got all excited and Jr Mod to the max, but to have them hitting “report this post’ like a rat jonesing for a smoke is a little crazy. Or, perhaps, as has been suggested multiple times now to resounding silence from you, it’s not just one or two people who you’re irritating with your posts. Perhaps you’re pissing off a LOT of people, many of whom are reporting your post just once, as they are supposed to do. Why this seems to be so difficult for you to wrap your head around is one of the many mysteries of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/232 "2013-05-09T00:29:57Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > I’m trying to imagine how someone with 20k posts and Charter Membership on the SDMB could embarrass himself more, and, really, I got nothing. This is the guy that once argued that “whooshing” another poster should be a bannable offense. He’s beyond embarrassment, at this point. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/233 "2013-05-09T00:47:23Z")
I’m not surprised **SenorBeef** hasn’t shown up. In Korea we have a saying: You do not avoid stepping in shit because you fear the shit. You avoid it because it’s fucking shit. ---
**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/234 "2013-05-09T00:55:26Z")
> [@HazelNutCoffee](#): > > I’m not surprised **SenorBeef** hasn’t shown up. In Korea we have a saying: You do not avoid stepping in shit because you fear the shit. You avoid it because it’s fucking shit. That’s a great saying! **DrDeth** nobody agrees with you. Just let the show only people have their own thread. You can discuss the books in the spoiler thread, or you can start your own thread. You’re just being rude for no reason. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/235 "2013-05-09T00:59:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Hey, how’d you guess? _Damn_, you’re good. > What I find interesting is this: as someone pointed out I am _“someone with 20k posts and Charter Membership on the SDMB_ “. And, I generally stand up for the staff here. I don’t cause trouble, am a good board citizen, etc. Yes, this is my Pet Peeve, and yes, I am going on & on & on& on about it. > > But Marley- why are you getting \*your \*panties in a bunch about this? I am not peeing in _your_ cornflakes. > > Stupid as this PIT thread may be, there’s not a day goes by without something even dumber. So- why come down from your Ivory Tower to post about this? Because by rights this should have died yesterday, but you’re repeatedly resuscitating it so you must still want us to make fun of you. We are obliging. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/236 "2013-05-09T01:19:29Z")
It’s funny to me how much I read this board, and yet pay so little attention to poster’s personalities. When I “know” a specific poster, most of the time it is for being really really awful, and making a spectacular ass of themselves in some way. Now I know Dr Deth. I don’t get the fixation on Senor Beef though. The rule of “there absolutely are no books” was fought for by a whole crowd of people who just want to enjoy a tv show (against a few who just like fucking with people apparently). Beef just starts the thread more often than not. And on the subject of illiteracy … how does one post here 20,000+ times, and go around using “PIT”? ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/237 "2013-05-09T02:08:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, my ONLY mention of the book was “But really, this show is going WAY to much into the torture. The books simply implied, never actually detailed it while it was occurring.” My point was that HBO was showing too much excessive & gratuitous torture, a point made by several others. Now the defense for HBO would be “Well, they are just doing what’s in the books’ but you see, that’s NOT in the books. So, I wasn’t discussing what’s IN the books so much as what was NOT in the books. And, dozens of posters have mentioned in those threads that HBO has added a lot of nudity, etc. > > And here is the well reasoned response from Senor Beef “For fucks sake, no one mention the word “book” in these threads ever again. You add nothing to the discussion and you just fucking open it up to stupid squabbling again. THE BOOKS DO NOT EXIST IN THESE THREADS, stop talking about them in any context, and stop trying to argue the policy. “ So if anything, rather than me " over-exaggerated his stance" as you claimed- I toned down his actual anti-book stance. I had to. No one would beleive me if I posted his actual stance and beliefs. > > Oddly other have said things like mentioning certain characters etc are original with HBO for the TV show- which means they are thus saying they are not in the books. But since they didn’t actually say the “b-word’ and since Senor Beef isn’t smart enough to figure that out, he lets those slide. > > He’s stupidier than a side of beef. I’ve been on the fence about whether you are really that big of an asshole or just really, really stupid. Now I’m starting to think that in addition to them both you are also dishonest. You did over-exaggerate. Here’s your actual claim, that he said: > [@DrDeth](#): > > I have a problem with “I can’t read the books they are too big and too full of long words and it makes my brain hurts and my lips numb from sounding them all out -thus you can’t even mention that they exist” I read the thread in question, I couldn’t find that quote. Maybe you can help me out with a link? > [@HazelNutCoffee](#): > > You do not avoid stepping in shit because you fear the shit. You avoid it because it’s fucking shit. God damn, I love that! ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/238 "2013-05-09T03:22:36Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > For starters, you’re acting like a complete asshole, and I’m not a fan of that for reasons of basic human decency. More selfishly, every time you pull one of your fuckwit stunts, my inbox fills up with a bunch of thread reports and I either have to read a bunch of incomprehensible Game of Thrones posts to find out what the fuck your major malfunction is or I have to wait and keep getting thread reports every few minutes until **Gukumatz** can deal with your idiocy. So you _are_ pissing in my goddamn cornflakes, you stupid shit. Just had to repeat this and show it the love it deserves. Brav-fucking-o. This has been my most favorite thing today and I want the above cross-stitched on a pillow. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/239 "2013-05-09T03:32:50Z")
I hear it in Heather Chandler’s voice. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/240 "2013-05-09T04:11:17Z")
Jog my memory: during one of these spats, didn’t someone PM SenorBeef a whole bunch of GoT spoilers? Who was that? Or was that one of those things someone said they wanted to do, but didn’t? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743.md?page=13)