# Senor Beef and his crusade against knowledge

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743 "2013-05-07T21:08:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/41 "2013-05-07T23:11:38Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Well, thanks for generally agreeing with me. Yes, you are right, it’s not really worth a PITing. I put up with it for over 2 years now.
> 
> But I happened to just _mention_ the book in a line where I was complaining about HBO’s excessive gratuitous display of torture, and got jumped on by no less that four junior Mods. Mind you, it’s impossible to note that the torture is both excessive & gratuitous without pointing out that the source material didn’t feel a need to show it. There was no “spoiler”, I didn’t point out anything that wasn’t right there on the screen and in fact I was not talking about the book at all, but about HBO’s display of excessive & gratuitous torture. Hell, many have said that HBO seems to show more nudity than the books indicate\*, and no one jumped on them.
> 
> - not that there’s anything wrong with that…🆒

“Um _obviously_ I could have said what I wanted and followed the rules, but I really like stirring up shit and causing a scene.”  
:strokes neckbeard thoughtfully:

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/42 "2013-05-07T23:13:50Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Senor Beef doesn’t just make the reasonable request for “no spoilers”- he **demands** no one \*even mention that the books even exist. \*

That wouldn’t be necessary if it weren’t for juvenile scabpickers who delight in dancing as close to the edge of spoilers as they can, then feign surprise when they are called on it. Unfortunate, but necessary. I support this moderation.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/43 "2013-05-07T23:16:52Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Pity’s entirely relative, you poor, poor thing. 😉
> 
> Love,  
> Baltimore

We’ll see if you can play with us in the AFC Championship game this season. Yeah, I called it!

😉

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/44 "2013-05-07T23:28:17Z")

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The fact that you disagree with someone does not make them stupid. The fact that you can’t even understand their viewpoint, on the other hand, does no favors for you.

Personally, I’d support a ban on you discussing Game of Thrones at all because you repeatedly show you can’t not be an asshole when you do it. You have several fucking threads to discuss it the way you want to, but you keep on insisting on trying to force the one thread that doesn’t conform to your standards to change.

And **SenorBeef** (oh the irony of misspelling his name while calling him illiterate) didn’t make the rules. The rules were created people like you kept being assholes in the original thread. If you don’t like new rules, don’t be such an asshole.

I mean, you are seriously reaching here. Somehow not wanting to learn about the storyline in a book you haven’t read yet is a quest for championing ignorance? Do you read what you write? Or are you that so illiterate that that is impossible for you?

I wouldn’t be surprised if your constant trolling of that thread has led to the mods considering revoking your posting privileges the next time you post in that thread. You are being a jerk, and you need to stop before you are forced to stop.

And I don’t even watch Game of Thrones! Nor do I care about the books. Yet I am this close to using up my one free use of a certain forbidden word on you, to possibly get through your extremely thick head on this. The combination of stupidity, assholishness, and pettiness is just that bad.

And this is me we’re talking about. The guy who everyone thinks gets too upset over way too many things. If I think you’re being petty…

Seriously, grow the fuck up and deal with this like an adult instead of whining that you don’t get your way all the time. Stop trolling.

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**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/45 "2013-05-07T23:36:56Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> It’s not just the SDMB, but on many other message boards I’ve come across, too.. Threads for other TV shows are unspoiled. Threads for Game of Thrones come in several versions: nothing spoilered, books spoilered, books and TV spoilered, everything including predictions spoilered … it’s ridiculous. I think it’s just something to do with geek culture. Nobody gives a shot if you said Joan and Roger were an item on a previous season of Mad Men, but mention … oh, Drogo ripping out some dude’s tongue, and you’ll likely feel the wrath of those who might have missed that episode.

WHAT? Spoiler that, please!

Just kidding. Anyone who couldn’t figure that one out wasn’t paying attention. I had a roommate yell at me for spoiling the ending of _The Count of Monte Cristo_. Not the movie. Not the play. The book. I think the statute of limitations ran out on that one.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/46 "2013-05-07T23:36:59Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/47 "2013-05-07T23:37:35Z")

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Again with this shit ? Will you be making that same whiny thread every season, or… ?

There’s a spoiler thread. There’s a no spoiler thread. You pick one and don’t pull childish shit in the other. It’s not rocket flaying.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/48 "2013-05-07T23:40:37Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yet I am this close to using up my one free use of a certain forbidden word on you

Is it “cunt”?😕

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/49 "2013-05-07T23:43:53Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> The mission of the SDMB is to FIGHT ignorance, not promulgate it.

Ah! _Promulgate!_ “Promulgate”. Sounds like a lovely little sea-side village.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/50 "2013-05-07T23:51:35Z")

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How stupid do you have to be to pit an illiterate person in writing?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/51 "2013-05-07T23:57:58Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And **SenorBeef** (oh the irony of misspelling his name while calling him illiterate) didn’t make the rules.

Well… to be pedantic, it is kinda misspelled to begin with. Unless I’m mistaken and there’s a word spelled “senor.”

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**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/52 "2013-05-08T00:07:36Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Well… to be pedantic, it is kinda misspelled to begin with. Unless I’m mistaken and there’s a word spelled “senor.”

There’s Señor.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/53 "2013-05-08T00:10:15Z")

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My point exactly.

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**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/54 "2013-05-08T00:11:16Z")

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For us spectators, could we _please_ have a link? I looked through all 4 pages of the most recent “no spoiler” thread and I didn’t see **DrDeth** get a warning at all, nor did I see **SenorBeef** make any demands. So, could there be an example of his attitude here?

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/55 "2013-05-08T00:13:35Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> I didn’t figure out shit, but I was defending the person who did. Again, for someone so gung-ho about literacy, you sure can’t read for shit.
> 
> it.

Yes, I know, that was my point . You can’t even figure out when you’ve been had or whooshed.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/56 "2013-05-08T00:14:38Z")

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> [@Tequila\_Party](#):
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> For us spectators, could we _please_ have a link? I looked through all 4 pages of the most recent “no spoiler” thread and I didn’t see **DrDeth** get a warning at all, nor did I see **SenorBeef** make any demands. So, could there be an example of his attitude here?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16267383&postcount=174](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16267383&postcount=174)

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yes, I know, that was my point . You can’t even figure out when you’ve Ben had or whooshed.

Who is Ben?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/57 "2013-05-08T00:15:20Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Yes, exactly. To “\*keep people from giving things away \*“. Not to avoid even mentioning that they exist.

Okay, that’s dumb.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/58 "2013-05-08T00:15:27Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> :strokes neckbeard thoughtfully:

Hmm, so you are a 40 yo unemployed fat beard who lives in his Moms basement, eh?

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/59 "2013-05-08T00:17:28Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Hmm, so you are a 40 yo unemployed fat beard who lives in his Moms basement, eh?

This is just sad. I feel like I’m arguing with a special needs 8 year old.

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**Author:** ![yoyodyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a9a28c/32.png) [@yoyodyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yoyodyne)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senor-beef-and-his-crusade-against-knowledge/657743/60 "2013-05-08T00:18:38Z")

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> [@Tequila\_Party](#):
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> For us spectators, could we _please_ have a link? I looked through all 4 pages of the most recent “no spoiler” thread and I didn’t see **DrDeth** get a warning at all, nor did I see **SenorBeef** make any demands. So, could there be an example of his attitude here?

You missed page 5. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690141&page=5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690141&page=5)

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