# SenorBeef And The Streisand Effect **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 19, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866 "2024-12-19T13:49:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/141 "2024-12-28T13:40:30Z")
WTF? You think there is a meaningful difference between “wait 30 years until we get the racists converted” and “never”? Then [checks forum] you are the racists’ best friend. A useful idiot at best, and a cowardly closet racist otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/142 "2024-12-28T13:45:12Z")
All the idiot optimists were really allies of the fascists. They kept up the “it can’t happen here” bullshit while it was happening, then they said “the real Republicans will put up guardrails” then they said “they’re not all racists, they’ll come to their senses,” then they said “I’m going to keep my racist cousin because I’m old and white and only pretend to care.” Next up, “I hear the living conditions in the new camps are quite nice” and “it’s for their own safety.” ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/143 "2024-12-28T14:04:48Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > You think there is a meaningful difference between “wait 30 years until we get the racists converted” and “never”? I don’t think there’s any utility in using weasel words to exaggerate the point that Beef is making. But fuck it - if everyone has lost their minds, just take it completely off the rails. > [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Then [checks forum] you are the racists’ best friend. A useful idiot at best, and a cowardly closet racist otherwise. That’s the spirit. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/144 "2024-12-28T14:11:30Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I don’t think there’s any utility in using weasel words to exaggerate the point that Beef is making. But fuck it - if everyone has lost their minds, just take it completely off the rails. It’s 165 years after the Civil War, and you think anyone is honestly saying give it another 30 years and it will sort itself out? You’re a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/145 "2024-12-28T14:14:18Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > It’s 165 years after the Civil War No, it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/146 "2024-12-28T14:21:30Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > you think anyone is honestly saying give it another 30 years and it will sort itself out? This is a useful strawman. You’re an excellent debater. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/147 "2024-12-28T15:01:22Z")
You got me there, Chief Pedant. It’s 159 years. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/148 "2024-12-28T15:35:59Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > This is a useful strawman. You’re an excellent debater. And if we had more beaches, you’d finally have enough sand to pound up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/149 "2024-12-28T15:42:15Z")
To dream, the impossible dreeaaammmm… ---
**Author:** ![Mk\_VII](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Mk\_VII](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mk_VII)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/150 "2024-12-28T20:52:48Z")
Wow, this one’s got legs. Up to 150 and still going. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/151 "2024-12-30T16:12:37Z")
Not sure if this fits better over in the [linked thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774) in Politics and Elections, but since it’s a tongue-in-cheek humor column, I guess I’ll put Dave Barry’s take on the election from his most recent year-in-review column here along with a [gift link](https://wapo.st/4gUaMmq). (Note that they make you create a free account to use the link.) > [@Dave Barry](#): > > …In a matter of seconds these experts pivot from being spectacularly clueless about what was going to happen in the election to confidently explaining what happened in the election. > > One theory is that it was not a great idea for Democrats to insist that Biden was fine until it was embarrassingly obvious that he was not, then replace him, via a secret process, with a candidate who was not great at talking and did not run in a single primary and who previously advocated positions that many Americans were not crazy about, which is why they voted, sometimes reluctantly, for Trump. > > One branch of the Democratic Party accepts this theory and begins the painful but necessary process of self-examination. Another branch prefers to believe that the party is fine and the real problem is that most Americans are sexist, racist, pro-fascist morons, which might not be a winning message for Democrats going forward, but it does enable this branch to feel better about itself. There’s truth in jest, as my mother-in-law was fond of saying. Maybe I need to re-examine my own conclusion following the election that most Americans are indeed sexist, racist, pro-fascist morons. P.S. I didn’t actually realize Dave Barry was still writing columns, but he apparently still does these year-in-review ones, at least sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/152 "2024-12-30T20:38:46Z")
Man, Dave Barry’s gotten fuckin’ stupid in his old age. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/153 "2025-01-02T01:13:54Z")
Him and Dennis Miller, man. Neither of them has been funny since 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![songsoflovetrouble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@songsoflovetrouble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/songsoflovetrouble)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/154 "2025-01-02T15:52:54Z")
In the wake of somehow managing to lose an election to a barely even trying Donald Fucking Trump, for the _second_ time, the Democrats are doing the exact sort of brutally honest self-examination required: Finding out that Dave Barry is yet another member of the conspiracy to notice that Kamala can’t complete a sentence. There is definitely not a problem that needs to be addressed with a party structure that incentivized waiting until a senile man and a woman who can’t complete a sentence were their only legal options for nominees. The problem is just all those noticers. If we can somehow fire all the voters who commit the crime of noticing things, we’ll be in great shape to nominate Kamala, Hillary, and Allison Lundergan Grimes again in 2028. Maybe see if George McGovern and Walter Mondale’s corpses are available for VP, we need to get revenge on the last generation of noticers too. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/155 "2025-01-02T16:11:30Z")
I have come to the realization that you are full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866/156 "2025-01-02T17:30:51Z")
It pains me that it took you this long to figure that out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/senorbeef-and-the-streisand-effect/1011866.md?page=7)