I think I made the same point even before LHoD. No doubt he(?) said it better.
Anyway, here’s the interview with Republican Congressman Hurd that was on this morning:
Even he says that the current bills in consideration won’t actually address the problem and the administration has to do something (after basically calling Nielsen a liar).
“It is a great honor to be here with all of my friends — so amazing and will never forget!” Donald Trump’s message in the guest book at the Israeli Holocaust memorial museum on May 23, 2017.
He is proving that he hasn’t forgotten that day - monster was actually taking notes.
If family separation is such a great deterrent, why not roll it out if all crimes? I say we start with obstruction of justice and tax fraud, just to test it out. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right? And if isn’t, then someone please explain why.
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What you’re describing is what is done for the children. They are transitioned to foster care. NPR.
The kids spend an average of 49 days in Casa Padre, which is contracted by the Department of Health and Human Services and the Office of Refugee Resettlement. Then they’re turned over to sponsors, such as family members or foster families.
I think that technically marital infidelity is against the law in lots of places, too. Maybe add that just to make sure that lawbreaking politicians know we’re coming after their kids.
These people need to go back to where they came from and apply for citizenship the right way.
Okay, they’re going back home, and OOPS, they were killed by the gang that threatened to kill them, the reason they left in the first place. They’re dead now, so problem solved, right?
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Off the top of your head, explain that process. If you know what it is.
Oh, it’s only 7 weeks in, well, a cage (according to the government)? Where none of the adults can actually physically comfort them, because they aren’t allowed to touch them at all? I think that’s going to work out really well for the hundred or so kids under 4, or the rest of the kids. Then, they get to go back to their parents…uh, someplace else, I mean. Meanwhile, the parents don’t know what’s happening to their kids, right? And, we’re doing this because we want to do this.
I can’t tell if you’re defending what’s going on or just filling in more information. I’ll assumed it’s the latter since not even the Republicans are defending it. They are either lying about it (“it’s not our policy” “it’s the Democrats’ fault”) or condemning it, except for the more despicable members of the administration.
the last administration deliberately made a choice to subvert our immigration policy with catch and release.
This is probably the first time the kids were properly fed, housed and given the chance to play games on a regular basis. Housing these kids has been going on for some time and only became newsworthy recently.
It’s this week’s edition of Trump of the Month hate club.
Who needs parents? Not brown kids, anyway. Good old American cages are so much better than their loving (but brown) parents can ever provide!
Nonsense.
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I’ll tell you I’m probably not a typical voter. I lean more conservative on most issues, but I’m an atheist and believe in global warming and protecting the environment. I really don’t like illegal immigration and I don’t think it’s our job to save the rest of the world or take in its refugees. I think the American government should always put American interests first. But this is wrong, what we are doing is wrong, as a divorced Dad that doesn’t get to see his children everyday and hates it but gets them every single weekend and at any extra opportunity because I love them more than anything, it’s wrong to separate children from their parents and it’s completely unnecessary, it’s despicable and cruel.
I knew it was all Obama’s fault! It all makes sense now. Since this administrations main policy goal is to do the opposite of what Obama did, since he didn’t separate parents from their children and house the children in camps, we could only expect this administration to do the opposite.
Cite, please, for widespread famine in Central America? This is the first I’ve heard of this. I thought they were fleeing violence. Anyway, even if that were true (and I’m heartened that you care about feeding the world!) couldn’t we, now I’m just spitballing here, but couldn’t we feed them while they were with their parents?
When I think of cages, the first thing that comes to mind is a large fenced-in enclosure on a construction site or inside a contractor’s shop that provides an additional level of security for high value items such as electronics and heavy gauge copper wire and pipe. They are most commonly made of chain link fencing although sometimes they use heavy metal grating. So for me, “cages” seems a perfect description.
Well, that’s true in the case of child abuse and serious crimes only -but in most cases the children be placed with the other parent, a grandparent or another family member. And even the minority of cases where the child goes into foster care, it’s in a family environment - not an institutionalized shelter type setting. Breaking up families is taken very seriously- I remember one celebrity case where a reality show couple was convicted of some sort of fraud and they were allowed to serve their sentences consecutively so the children wouldn’t be deprived of both parents at once.
…isn’t that already the case? If someone gets arrested for obstruction of justice and tax fraud, and the kid with him has no other family here, then as I understand it that kid gets separated from (a) that family member, and therefore from (b) their family. And if the guy who got arrested goes on trial and gets sentenced to five years behind bars, well, then, the kid doesn’t spend five years in a cell with him, does he?
Most people who are arrested for a misdemeanor charge are released on on their own recognizance.
Because we don’t presume they are guilty of a crime. They are given the whole “innocent until proven guilty” treatment.
The two are not mutually exclusive -Guatemala has the sixth-highest rate of child malnutrition in the world, with 47% of children so chronically malnourished that their growth is stunted, up to 70% in some areas primarily populated by indigenous people. These are the same people who have been chronically deprived of all kinds of resources, including the protection of law enforcement.
The Guatemalan government doesn’t do jack-squat for indigenous people, especially women. Here’s some reading material.. And there’s a lot more where this came from. I am just posting sources on Guatemala specifically because my office has more Guatemalan clients than from other Central American countries, so I’m more familiar with the source material but it’s not exactly difficult to find info on just how shitty the situation is in El Salvador or Honduras, either.