Separating immigrants from their children is child abuse.

To be fair, with children even outside of the current mess, border agents often do want some sort of identification and proof of guardianship.

No, but you can damn sure bet that some parents who are deported to face fear and likely death, and know that their children as safe in America and will most likely stay…will shrug and accept. Because the kids are why they did it.

Wouldn’t you?

I’d have second thoughts about my child’s new homeland if the last view I had was her in a cage stuffed with other kids and clutching her only possession-a foil sheet. This is so obviously Trump saying “We will kidnap your children and cage them like dogs if you come here.”

Can’t have them infesting our pure, clean land. :mad:

Part of their induction into Muslim Sharia 13 is to teach them how to pretend to be Catholic.

Why would someone kidnap a child to claim asylum? If someone claims asylum, it isn’t like a magic word that lets anyone into the country in a manner immune from review by authorities.

So if some dude just wants to work in the U.S., to the extent that they can sneak across the border and find work illegally, well, I understand that. By why would someone kidnap a child, turn themselves into U.S. authorities at the first chance they get (which is basically what has to happen for asylum cases), and live in limbo for months and months with a kidnapped child waiting for their claim of persecution to be adjudicated? It makes no sense whatsoever. You’ve made up a really, really stupid and imaginary risk for something that makes no sense.

You might as well say that them 'messicans are gonna dress up their drugs and mary-wanna to look like babies so that brave U.S. police will let them through the border without being checked, and then go on to rape our women and vote in California elections.

(Oh, wait – did I pull that from a Trump speech?)

I’m imagining all across the country, alcoholics are calling their sponsor and friend for support while they try to resist the urge to drink. Maybe their problem is that they are decent human beings, so what the heck, go ahead, get shit faced.

When this shitstorm passes, you can sober up, you did it once, you can do it again. And if it doesn’t pass, then why bother?

Ok, please tell us all why you want to have open borders?

I will admit that yes, the USA has all the resources it needs to accommodate millions more people. Yes, our people per square foot is not nearly as bad as most other countries. The average home in the USA is bigger and houses far fewer people than in other countries.

BUT, we like it that way. Your right, NIMBY is out there. I am not into crowds. Crowded beaches,pools (this one in Japan), parks, schools, roads, etc… People want quiet neighborhoods not ones teeming with people. We want some space. We (well alot of people) want a large home with a backyard for all our stuff. We dont want to pay the massive taxes needed for all the infrastructure.

What your thinking is a very massive reconstruction of this countries social and economic system. How do you propose we get that to happen?

I’m sure you’ll be fine. Like, I’m completely sure. Totally.

We don’t smoke marijuana in Muskogee
We don’t take our trips on LSD
We don’t burn our draft cards down on Main Street
We like livin’ right, and bein’ free
:smiley:

I’d say they would be permitted to mount a collateral attack on the presumption that they understood what they were waiving.

I’d say that it’s fair to detain them and process their new asylum claim.

I’d also say that maybe we could break free some of hat Border Wall money to fund ALJs on site (or via closed circuit TV) to make some threshold determinations.

If they don’t have a home, yes.

Why wasn’t the thousands of alien children in group homes not a problem during the Obama administration?

Because it was nothing like the current concentration camps.

Again, that was not set as a policy as it is now.

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2018/06/18/myths-and-facts-trumps-separation-families-and-detention-children-us-mexico-border/220468#Myth:%20Past%20administrations%20had%20the%20same%20policy%20of%20separating%20families.

I have worked in child welfare for 23 years and have never seen a parent placed in jail for shoplifting.

Parents do not lose their rights simply because they are incarcerated.

If parents are incarcerated for serious crimes they still have the right to visit with their children and we make every effort to arrange this.

It is sometimes difficult based on the location of the jail site, the facility restrictions, the ages of the children, etc. but yes, there are visits.

I can’t believe how low this administration has fallen with respect to human rights and common human decency.

AP reveals that there are three shelters in Southern Texas…for babies and toddlers.
Who here has the unmitigated gall to defend this?

So in your 23 years of experience, you’ve seen numerous shoplifters jailed, but they were all childless?

Really?

That’s an amazing coincidence. To what do you attribute this lack of criminality after one becomes a parent?

What’s your position on tearing babies and toddlers from their parent’s arms and putting them in baby prison camps?

Or are you more concerned with playing “gotcha” word games?

Damn, Bricker. Are you really valuing snark over reading carefully?

Deflect, pivot, deflect some more.