# Separation of what and what??

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 29, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018 "2001-11-29T22:24:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![super\_head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@super\_head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/super_head)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/1 "2001-11-29T22:24:37Z")

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I think this speaks for itself.

[**Satan Officially Not Welcome**](http://stpetersburgtimes.com/News/112901/Citrus/Mayor_banishes_Satan_.shtml)

Wait, no it doesn’t - because it doesn’t say that it’s a town of complete fucking idiots (ok, aside from the rational few who all seem to inhabit one lonely restaurant in town).

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**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/2 "2001-11-29T22:34:36Z")

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Surreal! I can’t believe my eyes. How stupid is that? Not only is it stupid, I think it’s offensive to non-Xians.  
Thank you **super\_head** for giving me a good laugh! 😉

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/3 "2001-11-29T22:53:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by k.os \*  
> \*\*I think it’s offensive to non-Xians.  
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No, no, no. It has nothing to do with Christians. Lucifer never pays his parking tickets and always runs out on his bar tabs.

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**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/4 "2001-11-29T23:07:44Z")

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I wonder who they’ll blame things on when the next insert next bad thing here happens.

Neighbor: “Can’t blame Satan, remember he’s barred from the town.”

2nd Neighbor: “Maybe it was that Loki fella”

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/5 "2001-11-29T23:07:56Z")

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Oh.

My.

er, goodness. 🙂

What a load of horseshit.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/6 "2001-11-29T23:08:40Z")

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I had forgotten that, **Beeblebrox**! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Payne\_N.Diaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Payne\_N.Diaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Payne_N.Diaz)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/7 "2001-11-29T23:11:29Z")

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> One was kept for her office wall, which is covered with pictures of Elvis,…

I think that pretty well sums it up…

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**Author:** ![Robb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a183cd/32.png) [@Robb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robb)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/8 "2001-11-29T23:19:33Z")

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> We have taken our town back for the Kingdom of God.

then

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> As the Mayor of Inglis, duly elected by the citizens of this town, and appointed by God to this position of leadership, …

It used to be Satan’s town; she’s been mayor for 10 years - I think we have an uppity minion of Satan trying to upstage her boss.

Yet, I sure wish my mayor had been appointed by God.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/9 "2001-11-29T23:24:22Z")

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That’s fucking outrageous. I’m resonably sure God wouldn’t go appointing mayors of little jerkoff towns in the middle of nowhere. And it’s not like people need Satan to provoke them to do horrible things anyway. If I was a criminal, I’d be tempted to go there and set the mayor’s car on fire or something to prove that they’re morons.

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**Author:** ![Jeeves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@Jeeves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeeves)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/10 "2001-11-29T23:33:06Z")

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I checked 3 times to make sure that this wasn’t an Onion article. If I lived there, I would put up posts across form hers that say satan is welcome.

Jeeves

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/11 "2001-11-29T23:33:58Z")

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And, of course, she’s doing it “for the children.”

Sad thing is, I doubt they’d get her ousted from office either by vote or by law.

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/12 "2001-11-29T23:39:40Z")

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Sooo… since when is the Prince of Lies, Lord of Deceit, the Great Beast chained forever in the frozen heart of Hell, bound by the bylaws of Inglis, Florida? I’ve met a lot of people with a poor grasp of the Seperation of Church and State, but usually in the other direction.

So, any Satanists on the board up for a road-trip?

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**Author:** ![LindyHopper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@LindyHopper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LindyHopper)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2001, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/13 "2001-11-29T23:40:35Z")

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This is my favorite part:

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> She wrote fast, ignoring commas and periods.

Gee, that’s a shocker. :rolleyes:

And just _what_ kind of town has a bar called the Mouse Trap?

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**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/14 "2001-11-30T00:00:19Z")

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> _Originally posted by k.os_  
> **How stupid is that? Not only is it stupid, I think it’s offensive to non-Xians.**

And a bit embarrassing to Christians who have an ounce of common sense.

Do people really think Satan is gonna walk up to the city limits, see the pamphelts and think to himself, “Well, shit. I know when I’m not wanted. Guess I’ll just have to hang out in Miami some more.”

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> “If I had thought I was doing something wrong, I would have not done it,” she said. “It just felt like it was something I could do for the community, mostly for our young people.”

Yes, self-righteousness can be very comforting. To do this on her own is one thing, to do it as an act of government policy (putting it on ofiicial stationery with gold seal) is a violation of separation of church and state.

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> The proclamation is not a reference to a single event, Risher explained, but an overall sense of concern. She speaks of drunken drivers, fathers who molest their daughters and people who steal from their neighbors.

Of course drunken drivers, chold molestors, and theft is all the action of Satan, not of the individual performing the crime. If this is the official government stance down there, I feel like drving through town drunk and stealing a few things. My defence will be, of course, “the Devil made me do it.”

I hope real soon a court steps in and sets her straight. That sort of thing has no place in government acts.

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**Author:** ![ryoushi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@ryoushi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryoushi)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/15 "2001-11-30T00:11:51Z")

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Are we sure it didn’t say **Santa** , like that other town?

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**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/16 "2001-11-30T00:19:02Z")

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What fascinates me most about this is that it smacks heavily of witchcraft.

Four proclamations, sealed with gold, inside hollowed-out fenceposts at the entrances to town? “The body of Jesus Christ, those citizens cleansed by the Blood of the Lamb, hereby join together to bind the forces of evil in the Holy Name of Jesus.” Seems like a collaborative binding spell to me.

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**Author:** ![k.os](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@k.os](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k.os)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/17 "2001-11-30T00:22:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MrVisible \*  
> \*\*What fascinates me most about this is that it smacks heavily of witchcraft.
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> Four proclamations, sealed with gold, inside hollowed-out fenceposts at the entrances to town? “The body of Jesus Christ, those citizens cleansed by the Blood of the Lamb, hereby join together to bind the forces of evil in the Holy Name of Jesus.” Seems like a collaborative binding spell to me. \*\*

Yup! That’s exactly what it is.

Now who gets to tell Carolyn Risher?

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/18 "2001-11-30T00:22:32Z")

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Are we 100% sure that this isn’t a joke?

:eek:

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**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/19 "2001-11-30T00:28:15Z")

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Oh oh I know where I’m going on my next vacation.

Gotta unpack my black trench coat, fidora , leather boots and gloves and my mirrored sunglasses.

Muwhahaha

I wonder if I’d burst into flames upon entering the city limits.

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2001, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/separation-of-what-and-what/96018/20 "2001-11-30T00:38:37Z")

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Jesus Wept.

The funny thing is, she’s setting herself as having some supernatuiral power over Satan that an ordinary citizen lacks.

Imagine what this would play like in Washington:

“I am the light of the world . Whoever follows me will never walk with darkness but will have the light of life.” Declared President Bush . Bush then blessed the crowd. “Blessed are the meek. For they shall inherit tax cuts.” Colin Powell betrayed him to the UN for forty pieces of silver, and a constitutional crisis erupted over whether Cheney was obliged to return the presidency to the resurrected commander-in-chief.

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