# Sept. 22, 4:46 PM PDT

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 22, 2002, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192 "2002-09-22T23:52:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2002, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/1 "2002-09-22T23:52:46Z")

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I just heard my first Christmas album ad of the season. Just thought I’d share in case anyone else was keeping track of when the Christmas season officially started.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/2 "2002-09-23T00:19:56Z")

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I hate that. My mood gets fouler and fouler until that awful xmas day. I have been tracking that over that years and late September is about right.

Haj

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/3 "2002-09-23T00:32:44Z")

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We were in White Marsh Mall this morning and I heard “Silent Night” wafting out of some store… I wanted to weep…

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**Author:** ![lel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8797f3/32.png) [@lel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lel)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/4 "2002-09-23T00:36:37Z")

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Gosh, I remember when I first noticed the first Christmas display of the year, and it was November 11 – of 1992. So does this mean that Christmas will now begin around August 1 by 2012? Wouldn’t surprise me, really.

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/5 "2002-09-23T00:38:32Z")

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I was in Target Friday, and they were putting out Christmas decorations and lights for sale. I just cringed.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/6 "2002-09-23T00:48:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FairyChatMom \*  
> \*\*We were in White Marsh Mall this morning and I heard “Silent Night” wafting out of some store… I wanted to weep… \*\*

Oh sure. _Orange Park, FL_, eh?

YOU WERE IN THE MID-ATLANTIC!

And you didn’t stop by!

RT, Dave! Someone, anyone! My heart is breaking!

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**Author:** ![meenie7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7993a0/32.png) [@meenie7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meenie7)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/7 "2002-09-23T01:00:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by hajario \*  
> \*\*I hate that. My mood gets fouler and fouler until that awful xmas day. I have been tracking that over that years and late September is about right.
> 
> Haj \*\*

wow, that’s too bad.

though I agree that the Christmas season should not begin until AT LEAST after Halloween, and preferably around Nov. 15, I just don’t understand how anyone could not love Christmas (or the giving mid-winter holiday of their choice). Something about it remains magical to me, and that something has nothing to do with merchandise.

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**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/8 "2002-09-23T01:07:27Z")

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Fargo ND. About 5PM Sept. 22 Entered local Kmart. Christmas trees, lights decorations, stuffed Santas.

I heard three other people distinctly comment on how flipping early it was for this crap to start.

My wife mentioned all the people we still had to buy presents for.

Bastards.

This should really be in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/9 "2002-09-23T01:10:17Z")

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I personally deface all christmas ads before haloween.

I love perminant markers. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/10 "2002-09-23T01:10:39Z")

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The week before last I got my memo about the office Xmas party. Grocery stores around here have had the Halloween stuff out for about two weeks - how are they going to squeeze in Thanksgiving?

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**Author:** ![Muad\_Dib](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/35a633/32.png) [@Muad\_Dib](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muad_Dib)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/11 "2002-09-23T01:17:18Z")

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_Muad’Dib walks about in the 100 degree (37.78 Celsius) California heat_

“_Oh it’s begining to look a lot like Christmas"  
Eeeeevry where you go…_”

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**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/12 "2002-09-23T01:19:20Z")

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How the fuck can you have XMAS shit out if we haven’t even had Halloween shit out yet? I thought if you did that you would break one of the immutable laws of physics therby causing the entire universe to collapse in on itself as a black hole.

For Chrissakes the fucking leaves haven’t even started to turn yet and I live in MAINE!!

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/13 "2002-09-23T01:24:45Z")

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There are these stickers they sell at this one site (I ferget the 'zat one, but I’ll get back ter ya on dat) that, they’re perdy big stickers too, they have this one housewife on heroic sillhouette (possibly with a bazooka), and it says “Boycot Christmas!”.

Yeah. They were pretty neat. If I ever see them again I’ll show them to you all.

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**Author:** ![elshatan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@elshatan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elshatan)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/14 "2002-09-23T01:49:15Z")

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My bookstore started to get Christmas crap in in June. Yes, June. Tons of it.

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**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/15 "2002-09-23T02:02:00Z")

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This is why I don’t celebrate Christmas anymore.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/16 "2002-09-23T04:07:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by meenie7 \*  
> \*\*I just don’t understand how anyone could not love Christmas (or the giving mid-winter holiday of their choice). Something about it remains magical to me, and that something has nothing to do with merchandise. \*\*

How 'bout I am a cultural Jew, a relgious atheist and my birthday is December 23rd and that’s just for starters. Don’t even get me started about how a minor Jewish festival has been forever perverted by the historical accident of an event happening around the Winter Solstice.

Haj

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**Author:** ![Flamsterette\_X](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/41988e/32.png) [@Flamsterette\_X](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flamsterette_X)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/17 "2002-09-23T06:34:46Z")

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I was in Carlton’s in late August, and saw Halloween stuff out already. Then again, last week I was in the dollar store, and saw Chirstmas cards out. Starts way too early for me…

F\_X

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/18 "2002-09-23T19:51:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*YOU WERE IN THE MID-ATLANTIC!
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> And you didn’t stop by!  
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Hmmmm, how can I explain this? I had a weekend - just one weekend. I no longer live with my husband - this was our opportunity to be together. Now, I could spend the weekend with my husband fulfilling my spousal duties or I could stop by and see you. Let’s consider this carefully…

😃

No **Chance**!!! Sorry. My visits are short and the limited hours have already been claimed. Now, if you happen to be at the Annapolis Sailboat Show on Friday, Oct 11, I’ll invite you to lunch with us, but beyond that, nothing personal, but I’d rather be with my sweetie. And I’m back in Orange Park again (rats)

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**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/19 "2002-09-23T19:57:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by FairyChatMom \*  
> \*\*We were in White Marsh Mall this morning and I heard “Silent Night” wafting out of some store… I wanted to weep… \*\*

Are you sure you didn’t want to weep just for being in the middle of White Marsh Mall?

[sub]I _hate_ that mall.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![scout1222](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@scout1222](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scout1222)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2002, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sept-22-4-46-pm-pdt/129192/20 "2002-09-23T21:08:34Z")

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So **Haj** , you’d probably be miffed if this year I combined your birthday and Christmas gifts into one, right???

And of course I’d wrap it in red & green wrappings…

–scout “1222 for a reason”

Grr.

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