# September 11, 2001--Never Forget! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 10, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525 "2013-09-10T21:13:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/41 "2013-09-12T05:03:40Z")
After Iraq I find myself indifferent to 9/11. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/42 "2013-09-12T07:01:15Z")
I was beginning to think it was time to step back from 9/11. Anyone that lived through that day will never forget it. At some point there won’t be large public memorials and remembrances. But then two people in Boston, full of hate & religious fervor reminded all of us that the threat is still all to real. There are powerful groups out there that want to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. Until that changes, we need to be reminded of 9/11 and what complacency cost this country. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/43 "2013-09-12T11:36:13Z")
Yeah, but the fear and fervor of remembering 9/11 lead America into a war in Iraq that slaughter many times more innocent civilians than were killed on 9/11. So should those victims never forget? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/44 "2013-09-12T11:36:24Z")
The two guys in Boston were not part of a “powerful group.” Every country has to deal with crime. The answer is not to treat them as if we are at war and suspend civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/45 "2013-09-12T11:59:48Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > After Iraq I find myself indifferent to 9/11. You must have had a rough tour. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/46 "2013-09-12T13:18:16Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The two guys in Boston were not part of a “powerful group.” Every country has to deal with crime. The answer is not to treat them as if we are at war and suspend civil rights. Yup, also they at least claimed that their attacks were in response to our attacks, so endless cycle and all that. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/47 "2013-09-12T13:28:22Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > There are powerful groups out there that want to kill and maim as many Americans as possible. Until that changes, we need to be reminded of 9/11 and what complacency cost this country. A war with another country that had nothing to do with 9/11? ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/48 "2013-09-12T14:43:49Z")
Thanks to OP for cite to original thread. Brought tears to my eyes. Affirms SD as community as well. ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/49 "2013-09-12T15:19:19Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > You must have had a rough tour. Zing! ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2014, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/50 "2014-09-10T22:50:22Z")
Bumping my thread. I will never forget. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/51 "2014-09-11T02:42:26Z")
The professional breast-beaters on the 24-hour news cycle won’t let us. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/52 "2014-09-11T03:05:11Z")
Nor will I. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/53 "2014-09-11T05:32:29Z")
A number of posts in that old thread report a third plane hitting one of the towers. Does anyone know why folks were saying that? What was the misunderstanding that led people to report that? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/54 "2014-09-11T05:37:32Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > A number of posts in that old thread report a third plane hitting one of the towers. Does anyone know why folks were saying that? What was the misunderstanding that led people to report that? Confusing a repeat broadcast of one of the planes hitting for a live broadcast, most likely. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/55 "2014-09-11T12:26:42Z")
Alternately, ( And I don’t remember the timeline cause [I was a bit busy that day](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17721096#post17721096) ) the reports of the plane that wound up crashing in Shanksville, PA may have entered the timeline and reportage line and been confused with the two impacting the WTC. Not the crash itself, but the fact that another hijacking was reported, etc. Not sure. [This timeline may help.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_for_the_day_of_the_September_11_attacks) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/56 "2014-09-11T13:09:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Confusing a repeat broadcast of one of the planes hitting for a live broadcast, most likely. Pretty sure that’s it. I remember people saying as many as five planes had crashed into the WTC (both on the news and in text messages and such.) ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/57 "2014-09-11T14:00:26Z")
Exactly what does it mean to “never forget 9/11”? Of course we won’t forget. There were a great many innocents died, two iconic structures crumbled to dust. None of us could forget that day. But we have used the memory of that day to justify two needless wars and the killing of innocents abroad a hundredfold of who were lost that day. We’ve used it to justify torture and domestic spying, we’ve used it to stigmatize an entire religion. We have disgraced the memory of those who died by what we have done in their name. Perhaps we should try to forget. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/58 "2014-09-11T14:39:09Z")
HAPPY 9/11 DAY, EVERYONE! 🙂 :rolleyes: > [@BobLibDem](#): > > Exactly what does it mean to “never forget 9/11”? Of course we won’t forget. There were a great many innocents died, two iconic structures crumbled to dust. None of us could forget that day. But we have used the memory of that day to justify two needless wars and the killing of innocents abroad a hundredfold of who were lost that day. We’ve used it to justify torture and domestic spying, we’ve used it to stigmatize an entire religion. We have disgraced the memory of those who died by what we have done in their name. Perhaps we should try to forget. I was sick of the coverage thirteen years ago, with its maudlin music and virtually telling us how we’re supposed to feel. Of course we won’t forget. But we should focus on the lessons and not the emotions. People who lost friends and loved ones have every right to mourn; but there comes a point where the rest of us need to move on. ---
**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/59 "2014-09-11T16:43:59Z")
I didn’t lose any relatives or friends (although there were a few close calls), but I will not forgive or forget. I don’t need to watch any of the coverage; it’s too deeply engraved in my brain. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525/60 "2014-09-11T17:18:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The attacks 12 years ago are a touchstone for all of us. We all know where we were and what we were doing. I also remember where I was and what I was doing when the space shuttle blew up, but I don’t run around demanding that everyone remember it. And I saw THAT happen in real time and in person. I will never understand why our society has to pick open wounds on every anniversary of a bad thing. Nor why every memorial has a goddamn gift shop. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-11-2001-never-forget/668525.md?page=4)