# September 23, please, or please get here fast \["Fringe" season premiere\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 5, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316 "2011-09-05T22:28:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/1 "2011-09-05T22:28:52Z")
**Fringe** will be back on then. And these promos, [1](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMUfAGhteo), [2](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BRWDPMnPrQ&feature=related) look really interesting. Edit: Crap, I thought I was in Cafe Society. I’ll report my own post. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/2 "2011-09-05T22:34:24Z")
It’s also my birthday! ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/3 "2011-09-05T22:35:25Z")
Early happy birthday! What better way to celebrate than by watching one of the best shows on TV? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/4 "2011-09-05T22:36:07Z")
I’ve never seen it, actually. But Sept 23 is also the day that Jurassic Park will be rereleased in theatres in the UK. Wish I were there! ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/5 "2011-09-05T22:37:55Z")
Wow, September 23 seems to be a happening time to be. I hope I said that right. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/6 "2011-09-05T22:42:16Z")
I don’t know if I will be watching Fringe this season. They kind of lost me with the finale last season. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/7 "2011-09-05T22:43:41Z")
Ican’twait Ican’twait Ican’twait Ican’twait… ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/8 "2011-09-05T22:45:27Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > I don’t know if I will be watching Fringe this season. They kind of lost me with the finale last season. I’ve never watched Lost, or any other show where they wrote themselves into a corner and so left big unanswered questions, so I’ll give Fringe the benefit of doubt. Oh, and I see my thread was moved to the right forum. Thanks mysterious mod or admin. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/9 "2011-09-05T22:50:41Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Wow, September 23 seems to be a happening time to be. I hope I said that right. I think you did! And yeah, I feel like I’ve been hearing about a lot of things for that date. Sorry to hijack from the Fringe talk! ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/10 "2011-09-05T22:58:03Z")
No no, it’s cool. I’m just a Fringe junkie waiting to get his fix. And I have to wait about two and a half weeks!!! I’ll be OK though. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/11 "2011-09-24T03:27:24Z")
It’s here!!! In 35 minutes **Fringe** Will be on. Yes! Also, happy birthday **Freudian Slit**. And happy UK Jurassic Park day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/12 "2011-09-24T06:44:25Z")
Well, that wasn’t a bad episode. The one thing I hate, and they’ve done this twice, is a bunch of stuff happens in-between seasons and they’re slow to fill us in. Last season they’re all together in the same building, and this season they’re separated again seeming working on their own fringe cases instead of working on fixing the cracks and vortexes. I mean, I’m sure they’re working on that too, but no-one in that episode seemed to be working on it. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/13 "2011-09-24T17:09:11Z")
I thought they’d end the episode with one last surprise for our Lincoln Lee – i.e., his copy from the other side. But I suppose that can wait for another episode. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/14 "2011-09-24T17:20:38Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Also, happy birthday **Freudian Slit**. And happy UK Jurassic Park day. 🙂 Thanks, **Nobody**! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/15 "2011-09-24T18:31:49Z")
> [@Snooooopy](#): > > I thought they’d end the episode with one last surprise for our Lincoln Lee – i.e., his copy from the other side. But I suppose that can wait for another episode. I thought maybe Fauxlivia would say something like, “Hey Lincoln.” Or something like that. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Thanks, **Nobody**! 🙂 You’re welcome. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/16 "2011-09-24T18:59:32Z")
Aw, poor Walter - three-quarters crazy, and a ghost guy showing up to make him look/feel even crazier. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/17 "2011-09-24T19:33:54Z")
Anyone else notice the opening is now orange-tinted. This indicates to me the blending of the two universes, where our universe had a white coloration, and the alternate universe was red. Now that they’re bridged, will this season always be orange? Looks like they’re really bolstering Lincoln’s character in this universe, and will fold him into the Fringe division to fill the void of Peter (for however long that lasts), and probably to give Olivia a love interest. I did like the fluttering of Peter every now and then during the episode. Also how it was only implied, but now confirmed that the main Other is really attached emotionally to the Bishops. In the mean time, looks like Walter will be continually haunted by grown-up Peter’s existential ghost; which I’m sure will be dismissed by everyone else as delusions and such. Yet, I think Walter will finally put 2+2 together. Perhaps it’s all part of their original plan, when they dreamt up the machine, and its circumstances. Also, Walter has some awesome one-liners in this ep. “If you’re really looking for a story, look under that dome. I’m growing an ear.” ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/18 "2011-09-24T19:41:00Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > I thought maybe Fauxlivia would say something like, “Hey Lincoln.” Or something like that. “Did you say _‘Abe Lincoln’?_” ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/19 "2011-09-24T19:44:36Z")
One last musing that just occurred to me: What if we’re watching a third universe, spawned by the machine; a universe where Peter died, and Walter was never successful in saving the alternate Peter. Now, Peter from our universe (the one with the white opening sequence) is trying to contact Walter in this universe for some ultimate reason? Of course I’m wrong, but still, my mind wanders. ---
**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316/20 "2011-09-24T19:56:46Z")
I’m wondering how much of the history is changed. Obviously if Peter never existed, then Fauxlivia didn’t have his baby. I wonder if alternate Broyles is still dead. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-23-please-or-please-get-here-fast-fringe-season-premiere/595316.md?page=2)