# September 26 - The First Obama-McCain Debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [September 26, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357 "2008-09-26T16:49:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/221 "2008-09-27T02:17:25Z")

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_He won’t even meet with the Prime Minister of Spain!_

Nice.

BTW, I’m not watching the TV at all. I can’t see it from my computer and I’m presently engaged in this conversation and playing . . ., um, studing up on these topics.  
Here’s another spot where McCain followers will be all YAY, sicc 'em. And I’m all-- calm down you crazy old coot. What did the graph say?

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/222 "2008-09-27T02:17:45Z")

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Uh oh, Grampa’s getting fussy, pretty soon he’s gonna start waving his cane around… I can’t believe how wambly he sounds–is anybody really thinking he’s coming off as even coherent?

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/223 "2008-09-27T02:17:49Z")

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goddammit all he had to do when asked “is Russia competitor, threat or potential ally” is say “yes” and wait for a count of five!!! Instead dammit he’s doing that stuttering uh eh-eh-eh- thing ☹

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/224 "2008-09-27T02:17:59Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> “I know Henry Kissinger. I’ve worked with Henry Kissinger. You, senator, are NO Henry Kissinger!”

Oh, now I get it. You’re drunk.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/225 "2008-09-27T02:18:05Z")

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> [@Stephe96](#):
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> “I know Henry Kissinger. I’ve worked with Henry Kissinger. You, senator, are NO Henry Kissinger!”

That’s funny, because I heard that too. Can we call that his “Jack Kennedy” moment?

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/226 "2008-09-27T02:18:14Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Why the fuck did McCain bring up the height of South Koreans vs. North Koreans? The hell???

The implication is that the North Korean regime is repressive to the point of significantly impairing the nutrition of its populace.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/227 "2008-09-27T02:18:21Z")

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McCain is just plain wrong. Clearly he didn’t watch the panel of the 5 former Secretaries on CNN a couple of weeks ago.

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> Kissinger added: “ **Well, I am in favor of negotiating with Iran. And one utility of negotiation is to put before Iran our vision of a Middle East, of a stable Middle East, and our notion on nuclear proliferation at a high enough level so that they have to study it**. And, therefore, I actually have preferred doing it at the secretary of state level so that we – we know we’re dealing with authentic.”
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> [Ex-secretaries of state share advice for next president - CNN.com](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/16/secretaries.state.forum/)

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**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/228 "2008-09-27T02:18:47Z")

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> [@Eyer8](#):
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> This is depressing me; Senator McCain is doing much better than I expected him too. IN fact, I feel like he has been doing better than Senator Obama…

Obama is suceeding at looking more dignified and presidential, but when it comes to certain points, McCain seems to be effectively tearing down Obama’s positions and Obama himself at every possible avenue.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/229 "2008-09-27T02:18:55Z")

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McCain, shut the fuck up about Russia, you don’t understand this conflict.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/230 "2008-09-27T02:18:57Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Why the fuck did McCain bring up the height of South Koreans vs. North Koreans? The hell???

Okay, I thought that was just the drugs kicking in but that really did happen… I’m not certain this is reassuring, really!

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/231 "2008-09-27T02:18:59Z")

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> [@Eyer8](#):
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> This is depressing me; Senator McCain is doing much better than I expected him too. IN fact, I feel like he has been doing better than Senator Obama…

We must be watching a different debate. Did you expect McCain to drool? I mean, he is an accomplished politician who has participated in scores of debates…

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**Author:** ![Daffyd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daffyd/32/8923_2.png) [@Daffyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daffyd)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/232 "2008-09-27T02:19:04Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> That’s funny, because I heard that too. Can we call that his “Jack Kennedy” moment?

Actually, it just reminded me how old the guy is…

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/233 "2008-09-27T02:19:21Z")

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That exchange about meeting with ahmadewhatever and the “oh pleeeaase” bit from MCain are bad news for obama :(, if thats the only soundbite from the debate is a MCain win.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/234 "2008-09-27T02:19:42Z")

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no talks with spain 'till they end bullfighting!

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/235 "2008-09-27T02:20:06Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> no talks with spain 'till they end bullfighting!

You’ve got MY vote!😃

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/236 "2008-09-27T02:20:11Z")

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Oh god, you really don’t know the issue of Russia. You think you know Saakashvili well enough to call him Misha!?!?!

Also, I’m getting tired of hearing about how many places McCain has gone.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/237 "2008-09-27T02:20:55Z")

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Anecdote warning!

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/238 "2008-09-27T02:20:58Z")

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His little anecdotes are retarded.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/239 "2008-09-27T02:21:32Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Oh god, you really don’t know the issue of Russia. You think you know Saakashvili well enough to call him Misha!?!?!

Easier to pronounce, duh!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/240 "2008-09-27T02:22:10Z")

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Everytime McCain says Obama doesn’t understand, Obama should say McCain is confused.

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