# September 26 - The First Obama-McCain Debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 26, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357 "2008-09-26T16:49:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/161 "2008-09-27T02:02:24Z")
I’ve got a bracelet too. No soldier ever dies in vain. He’s knocking it out on Iraq, after a slow start on the economy. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/162 "2008-09-27T02:03:02Z")
i have a pretty too. see? goodness, this is getting deep. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/163 "2008-09-27T02:03:12Z")
I like how McCain keeps trying to point out that Obama just doesn’t understand so much. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/164 "2008-09-27T02:03:25Z")
> [@cricetus](#): > > It’s just so nonsensical and unrelated to either the content of the debate OR anything visual. It’s like saying he looks “gay” or something. I would ask how, but I don’t really care what tea leaves you’re reading. So you believe that delivery is utterly irrelevant to Presidential debates, then? You honestly believe that presentation is “nonsensical”? Tell sweaty Nixon that delivery and presentation doesn’t matter. Please. _Brilliant_ use of homophobic insinuation, though. And thank you, **anu-la**. He’s been doing much better since it’s moved onto Iraq, both on content and delivery. Solid scores on numerous points. ---
**Author:** ![Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ee7513/32.png) [@Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crocodiles_And_Boulevards)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/165 "2008-09-27T02:03:32Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > If you are going to play the “bracelet” angle, you simply have to know the person’s name on the bracelet. > > Major _faux pas_ from Obama on that one. I think he did know, he just started to say the soldier’s name first instead of saying that it was the soldier’s mother. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/166 "2008-09-27T02:03:34Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > If you are going to play the “bracelet” angle, you simply have to know the person’s name on the bracelet. > > Major _faux pas_ from Obama on that one. He paused because he said the solider gave it to him, but it was the soldier’s mother. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/167 "2008-09-27T02:03:50Z")
Iran question. Good question. ---
**Author:** ![DarkPrince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@DarkPrince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DarkPrince)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/168 "2008-09-27T02:04:17Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > I like how McCain keeps trying to point out that Obama just doesn’t understand so much. I was thinking the same thing. I’m expecting him at some point to walk over and pat him on the head condescendingly while tutting “there-there”. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/169 "2008-09-27T02:04:23Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > If you are going to play the “bracelet” angle, you simply have to know the person’s name on the bracelet. > > Major _faux pas_ from Obama on that one. Didn’t he say it? I thought he did, but the room is kind of noisy. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/170 "2008-09-27T02:04:53Z")
The green (indi) opinion tracker has been flat until now but it just took off in response to Obama’s “I’ve got a bracelet too” remark. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/171 "2008-09-27T02:05:13Z")
> [@Crocodiles\_And\_Boulevards](#): > > I think he did know, he just started to say the soldier’s name first instead of saying that it was the soldier’s mother. I have no doubt that he did, but this is less about the issues and more about perception, and I’m pretty sure that hesitation won’t play well in the sticks. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/172 "2008-09-27T02:05:43Z")
I’m sorry, wasn’t the question how Iran is a threat to the U.S.? Perhaps I am mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/173 "2008-09-27T02:06:16Z")
Did McCain just godwinize the debate? ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/174 "2008-09-27T02:06:24Z")
McCain gets better once he gets warmed up. Aftter 8 years of GWB it’s almost a shock to return to the idea of a nonstupid Republican Presidential candidate. His answer on Iran wasn’t bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ice\_Cream\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Cream_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/175 "2008-09-27T02:06:36Z")
Iranically? Was that an intentional pun? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/176 "2008-09-27T02:06:38Z")
**The League of Democracy!** McCain is making a mutherfucking superteam!!! I shall be known as PowerLoins. I protect Posse Comitatus. ---
**Author:** ![Discipline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Discipline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Discipline)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/177 "2008-09-27T02:07:15Z")
Why does the red line go up whenever we talk about killing people? ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/178 "2008-09-27T02:07:52Z")
What’s an “existential” threat? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/179 "2008-09-27T02:07:59Z")
a league of democracies??!! didn’t they try that back in the beginning of the last century? ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357/180 "2008-09-27T02:08:04Z")
Obama is doing well on Iran also though EDIT: _nice_ nail on Kissinger contradicting McCain on Iran [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/september-26-the-first-obama-mccain-debate/465357.md?page=10)