# sequels that don't suck
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 1, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064 "2004-07-01T16:08:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Shirt\_Ninja\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirt_Ninja_13)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/1 "2004-07-01T16:08:03Z")
So, having seen both Spider-man 2 and Shrek 2 in as many weeks, I’m starting to think that maybe sequels don’t have to be worse than the original movie. That said, I was wondering if people could come up with some other good examples of sequels that were on par with, if not better than, the original movie; sequels that don’t suck, if you will.
Any ideas?
_bamf_
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### Author:  [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/2 "2004-07-01T16:11:40Z")
Star Trek II
Superman II
X2
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/3 "2004-07-01T16:21:55Z")
Must disagree on Superman II - some good bits, but it introduced some weirdness to the franchise that I’ve always hated.
Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Army of Darkness all come to mind.
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### Author:  [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/4 "2004-07-01T16:22:25Z")
_Aliens_
Thank god they didn’t do any more after that… 😉
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### Author:  [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/5 "2004-07-01T16:33:46Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Must disagree on Superman II - some good bits, but it introduced some weirdness to the franchise that I’ve always hated.
I’ll have to disagree with your diagreement.
It’s just a movie, after all.
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### Author:  [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/6 "2004-07-01T16:44:30Z")
> [@Mr. Blue Sky](#):
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> I’ll have to disagree with your diagreement.
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> It’s just a movie, after all.
Of course, you’re entitled to do so.
I just cringe everytime I see Kryptonian hand-blasts or giant cellophane ‘S’ symbols entrapping the bad guy.
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### Author:  [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/7 "2004-07-01T16:51:12Z")
Lethal Weapon 2 - That was the last one, wasn’t it?
A Shot in the Dark
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/8 "2004-07-01T16:58:41Z")
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets.
From Russia with Love.
Highlander II: The Quickening (naw… just kidding…)
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### Author:  [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/9 "2004-07-01T17:03:33Z")
Godfather 2 (of course)
Evil Dead 2 (and Army of Darkness) - i think both are better than the original Eviil Dead
X Men 2 (This is obviously controversial, but personally I liked the second a lot more)
and without a doubt,
The Muppets Take Manhattan. The crown jewel of the mythos.
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### Author:  [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/10 "2004-07-01T17:07:39Z")
Toy Story 2 is generally thought to be better than the original.
Even numbered Star Trek movies (which makes II better than I).
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### Author:  [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/11 "2004-07-01T17:12:54Z")
Sequels that are as good (or better) than the originals:
Godfather 2
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (better)
Aliens (better)
Empire Strikes Back
X-Men 2 (better)
Spider-Man 2
Blade 2 (better)
LotR: The Two Towers
LotR: Return of the King
Army of Darkness (better than Evil Dead 1 and 2)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (better than Temple of Doom, at least)
Desperado (better than El Mariachi)
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### Author:  [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/12 "2004-07-01T17:27:13Z")
> [@picker](#):
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> X Men 2 (This is obviously controversial, but personally I liked the second a lot more).
It is? I only know of one or two people that prefer the original which when compared to the sequel was nothing more than a paint by numbers comic book movie. A _good_ one, yes, but still rather pedestrian.
X2 was ten times better. At least.
> [@Dangerosa](#):
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> Even numbered Star Trek movies (which makes II better than I).
Star Trek: Nemesis was ST:X and it was horrible so that theory’s now been shot.
TV Spin-offs are sequels of sorts so I will have to nominate all four of the Treks following the original which, to me, sucked. To be less controversial (I’m sure the purists would kill me for saying Voyager and Enterprise were better than TOS) though, I’ll just say TNG and DS9.
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### Author:  [@ElectricZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElectricZ)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/13 "2004-07-01T17:29:38Z")
The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2)
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/14 "2004-07-01T17:30:04Z")
I liked Babe 2: Pig in the City better than the original, but my brother disagrees.
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### Author:  [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/15 "2004-07-01T17:44:55Z")
_Superman II_ is far and away the best of the Supes, and _S II’s_ Zod stands among the top-notch movie villians. Warning, though. This movie may leave you craving a Marlboro, because of product placement.
\*Sherlock Holmes’s Smarter Brother, \* a Gene Wilder vehicle, is a pretty entertaining thing. It’s certainly better than the fing Basil-and-Nigel-foil-the-Nazis SH sequels.
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### Author:  [@Chunky\_Bum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chunky_Bum)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/16 "2004-07-01T17:55:03Z")
_Silence of the Lambs_
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### Author:  [@Coelacanth\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coelacanth_Soup)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/17 "2004-07-01T19:19:22Z")
Would \*Patriot Games \* and \*Clear and Present Danger \* count as sequals to _Hunt for Red October_? Both (actually all three) were great films.
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> **AskNott** - _Superman II_ is far and away the best of the Supes, and S II’s Zod stands among the top-notch movie villians.
Correct - _Superman II_ might have sucked sans ZOD. But that performance clinched the film’s status as a classic. Terrance Stamp perhaps gave one of the best portrayals of a villan in all of film history.
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### Author:  [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/18 "2004-07-01T19:25:52Z")
> [@Chunky Bum](#):
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> _Silence of the Lambs_
Cool. Most people wouldn’t get that it was a sequel, and say _Hannibal_ instead.
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/19 "2004-07-01T19:26:25Z")
_Bride of Frankenstein_
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/20 "2004-07-01T19:28:28Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Cool. Most people wouldn’t get that it was a sequel, and say _Hannibal_ instead.
Except the OP was looking for sequels that _don’t_ suck.
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