# sequels that don't suck
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [July 1, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064 "2004-07-01T16:08:03Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/21 "2004-07-01T19:33:10Z")
They’ve already been mentioned but…
X Men 2
Aliens
Star Trek II
The LOTR trilogy
The Empire Strikes Back
Blade II
Toy Story II
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Army of Darkness
Terminator II
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/22 "2004-07-02T07:42:37Z")
_Empire Strikes Back_
_Rocky 5_ (not better than the original but it didn’t suck)
_Toy Story 2_ (again, not better but didn’t suck.)
\*Jeepers Creepers 2 \* (thought it was about even)
\*American Pie 2 \* and _American Wedding_
_Die Hard with a Vengeance_. (Best on in IMO)
\*Lethal Weapon 2 \* and _3_ (though I hate Danny Glover)
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### Author:  [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/23 "2004-07-02T12:12:50Z")
**Telemark** beat me to it - _Bride of Frankenstein_ is easily as good, if not better, than the original. It certainly has lots more humor.
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### Author:  [@Monkey\_Chews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monkey_Chews)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/24 "2004-07-02T12:13:41Z")
_National Lampoon’s European Vacation_
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### Author:  [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/25 "2004-07-02T12:58:27Z")
_Blade II_?! Are you people insane? This movie sucked hard.
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### Author:  [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/26 "2004-07-02T13:03:34Z")
> [@Monkey Chews](#):
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> _National Lampoon’s European Vacation_
What did you like about it? Why did you think it was better than or as good as the original?
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### Author:  [@Stonebow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stonebow)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/27 "2004-07-02T13:25:43Z")
> [@duffer](#):
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> _Rocky 5_ (not better than the original but it didn’t suck)
Please tell me that you really meant to type rocky 2-4. 5 was certainly not better than the original, though Rocky IV was one of the best movies of all time, certainly near the top of the ‘guy’s top 100 movies’ list.
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### Author:  [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/28 "2004-07-02T14:25:50Z")
My favorite Rocky movies are actually 3 (because of Mr. T and Hulk Hogan) and 4 (because of Dolph Lundgren and the Vince DiCola musical score). Both stupider films than the award-winning first Rocky, but a lot more fun.
And how about Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo? Maybe not a great film, but people often refer to it, or add the suffix to random things, as in “Iraq War 2: Electric Boogaloo.” What, you’ve never heard anyone say that? Maybe I just hang with a bunch of nerds. Anyway, NOBODY ever refers to the original Breakin’!
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### Author:  [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/29 "2004-07-02T21:07:13Z")
> [@Stonebow](#):
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> Please tell me that you really meant to type rocky 2-4. 5 was certainly not better than the original, though Rocky IV was one of the best movies of all time, certainly near the top of the ‘guy’s top 100 movies’ list.
I meant 4. Not that shitty Tommy Gunn one. And his kid was such a little bastard in it, I refuse to ever watch it again. Sorry for the confusion. :smack:
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### Author:  [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/30 "2004-07-02T21:27:57Z")
> [@Snickers](#):
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> _Blade II_?! Are you people insane? This movie sucked hard.
Thank you. I was going to ask Voodoo Lou is that was some sort of code to let us know his house is being held by terrorists or something.
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### Author:  [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/31 "2004-07-02T22:39:12Z")
_Addams Family Values_\* was much better than the first Addams Family movie. With a crazy Joan Cusack and some “Addams family members deal with the Real World” bits.
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### Author:  [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/32 "2004-07-02T22:49:15Z")
I know some wiseacre will come along and say they both sucked but I think Ace Ventura 2 was much better than the first.
In fact, I didn’t care for the first one much at all, but I think the sequel is a modern-day classic.
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### Author:  [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/33 "2004-07-02T22:56:30Z")
> [@Munch](#):
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> Thank you. I was going to ask Voodoo Lou is that was some sort of code to let us know his house is being held by terrorists or something.
No, honestly, I don’t remember anything from Blade 1 except the neat “bloodbath” sequence in the beginning. Didn’t make much of an impact on me. But I saw Blade 2 recently (right after seeing Hellboy, by the same director, Guillermo Del Toro), and enjoyed it for what it was. Of course it had many similar elements and visuals to Hellboy, plus the Ron Perlman factor going for it. So I was probably just in the right mood.
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### Author:  [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/34 "2004-07-03T03:49:59Z")
Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey
Return to Snowy River.
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### Author:  [@Live\_Better\_Electrically](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Live_Better_Electrically)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/35 "2004-07-03T04:18:29Z")
_Drunken Master 2_, Hong Kong version
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/36 "2004-07-03T04:48:33Z")
_Dogma_ was the fourth movie in Kevin Smith’s New Jersey series and was in my opinion the best of the series. And even people who might not agree it’s the best will usually agree it was at least better than _Mallrats_.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/37 "2004-07-03T04:50:32Z")
And the second Brady Bunch movie was okay. Not quite as good as the first but it held up.
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### Author:  [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/38 "2004-07-03T04:53:07Z")
> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> And how about Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo? Maybe not a great film, but people often refer to it, or add the suffix to random things, as in “Iraq War 2: Electric Boogaloo.” What, you’ve never heard anyone say that? Maybe I just hang with a bunch of nerds. Anyway, NOBODY ever refers to the original Breakin’!
Well, nobody’s likely to argue that “Electric Boogaloo” is a better title! 😃
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### Author:  [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/39 "2004-07-03T06:28:54Z")
> [@Monkey Chews](#):
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> _National Lampoon’s European Vacation_
Obviously, you meant\* National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation\*.
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### Author:  [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2004, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-that-dont-suck/253064/40 "2004-07-03T07:30:49Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#):
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> Must disagree on Superman II - some good bits, but it introduced some weirdness to the franchise that I’ve always hated.
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> Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Army of Darkness all come to mind.
Superman II could have been a great movie but the amount of trouble among the director, producers and studio left us with something almost ☹ awful.
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