# Sequels with Identical titles to the first movie.

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**Created:** [February 9, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215 "2019-02-09T04:54:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/1 "2019-02-09T04:54:01Z")

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Do you remember that Shaft movie Samuel L. Jackson made back in 2000? I saw it in the theater and have never seen it again.

Yeah, so he has made a sequel to it.

\*\*First movie title: Shaft

Sequel title: Shaft  
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Identical titles, but the new one is a direct sequel to the one from 2000.

Has this happened before?

Note: Technically, the 2000 one was a sequel to Shaft from 1971, but it was more of a new beginning/reboot thing, which shouldn’t count. This 2019 one is a direct sequel to the 200 one and has the same title.

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**Author:** ![zombywoof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/9e8a1a/32.png) [@zombywoof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zombywoof)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/2 "2019-02-09T05:20:00Z")

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Halloween (1978/2018)

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/3 "2019-02-09T15:50:18Z")

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I know you asked for movies, but I’ll mention that the first four\* Peter Gabriel solo albums were all titled “Peter Gabriel”.

- Geffen Records wanted to name the fourth album “Security”, against Gabriel’s wishes. The compromise was that “Security” appeared on the record label and on a sticker on the shrink wrap, but does not actually appear anywhere on the album cover.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/4 "2019-02-09T16:23:16Z")

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Amusingly, James Gunn has been hired to direct a Suicide Squad movie.

2016: Suicide Squad  
2021: The Suicide Squad

Does that qualify?

Seriously, it’s like DC is trying to wish the entire efforts from Zack Snyder out of existence.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/5 "2019-02-10T00:40:11Z")

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Does this count? It’s a mess, but two of them are called just “Rambo”.

First Blood (1982)  
Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985)  
Rambo III (1988)  
Rambo (2008)  
Rambo V: Last Blood (2019)

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/6 "2019-02-10T02:42:12Z")

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I can’t imagine a lot of entries in this category. Generally people try to distinguish the sequel from the original with some change in the title, however minimal (_Aliens_ as sequel to _Alien_) because, you know, otherwise people don’t realizer it’s a new movie. It doesn’t get properly positioned when you release it on video, etc. Usually, the same title means a remake. For a reason.

That said, we’ve had a couple of cases in recent years where people have apparently suffered from “Roman Numeral Exhaustion”, so they dispense with the numerals that distinguished them. The first case I know of was _Jaws, the Revenge_ (instead of _Jaws IV_). The title’s not identical, but close.

Much closer were _Star Trek (The Motion Picture)_ (1979) and _Star Trek_ (2009). Probably the closest I’m going to come.

You also had _Rocky_ (1976) and its fifth sequel, _Rocky Balboa_ (2006), the first case of “Roman Numeral Fatigue” in the series, following _Rocky V_. Not exactly the same, but close enough.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/7 "2019-02-10T02:49:50Z")

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Which two of those are called just “Rambo”? All but the 2008 one have some modifier.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/8 "2019-02-10T03:08:07Z")

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Not a sequel, but **_The Thing_ (2011)** is meant to be a prequel to **_The Thing_ (1982)**.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2019, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-with-identical-titles-to-the-first-movie/829215/9 "2019-02-10T03:41:24Z")

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> [@zombywoof](#):
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> Halloween (1978/2018)

> [@tripthicket](#):
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> Not a sequel, but **_The Thing_ (2011)** is meant to be a prequel to **_The Thing_ (1982)**.

These both seem to count.
