# Sequels you May not Have Known Existed

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 4, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650 "2003-02-04T04:19:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![BuckleberryFerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@BuckleberryFerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BuckleberryFerry)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/41 "2003-02-04T20:23:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bean\_shadow \*  
> \*\ ***A Christmas Story** was followed by 1994’s **It Runs in the Family** , about the Parker’s summer (following the winter of the previous movie I assume). It has Charles Grodin as the father, Mary Steenbergen as the mother, Kieren Culkin as Ralph, and Christian Culkin as Randy. It’s part of the example **CalMecham** stated, as it’s material from the Jean Shepard novel _In God We Trust; All Others Pay Cash_. He also narrates this movie, too. \*\*

Wasn’t this called something like “The Great American Fourth of July Disaster?” I’m pretty sure it wasn’t “It runs in the family”

~Ferry

PS the book kicked ass

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/42 "2003-02-04T20:29:16Z")

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How about the “WKRP in Cincinnati: the Next Generation” series from the early 1990’s? It depicted the same radio station with a handful of the original characters, but with an adult-contemporary format and a bunch of yuppies on staff. it was mercifully short-lived and forgotten quickly.

As for books, let us mention, then forget about “H” the ‘sequel’ to “Wuthering Heights” that tells the story of what Heathcliff did during his decades long abscence from the gothic manor. And then there’s “Scarlett”; the continuing stoooo-ry of the “Gone with the Wind” shrew/heroine. Like the t.v. series, both books were bad ideas to begin with, and quickly forgotten.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/43 "2003-02-04T20:52:34Z")

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Unknown sequels? Hell, there’s some movies out there which I never heard of until I noticed a sequel! The _Shark Attack_ series comes to mind.l

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/44 "2003-02-04T21:19:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RealityChuck \*  
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> The films **Zulu** and **Zulu Dawn** are interrelated, but it’s hard to say which is the sequel. \*\*

**Zulu Dawn** was made after **Zulu**. However, ZD concerns the battle of Islawhanda, wheras Zulu conerns the defense of Roarke’s Drift, which took place just after the battle of Islawhanda. Zulu Dawn was made 15 years after Zulu (made in 1964). Rumor has it that Satnley Baker planned a whole bunch of military movies based on the exploits of Welsh soldiers, but he died in 1976 having only producing Zulu. Whether ZD (which also has Welsh troops) was part of his scheme is unknown.

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> brianmelendez posted:
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> Logan’s Run was followed by Logan’s World and Logan’s Search.

The book I always loved for its massive continuity error. “Say Logan, how’d you get your DS gun back? Last we saw it you threw it into an autocar to throw off the signal…”

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**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/45 "2003-02-04T23:36:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> [_The Black Bird_ (1975) was a long-delayed sequel to _The Maltese Falcoln_ (1941).

And there’s the analogous delay between _National Velvet_ (1944) and _International Velvet_ (1978).

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> There were not one but two TV-movie sequels to _Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid_ (1969) showing the further adventures of Etta Place.

There’s also a prequel, _Butch and Sundance - The Early Days_, directed by Richard Lester in 1979.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/46 "2003-02-04T23:37:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bean\_shadow \*  
> \*\ ***A Christmas Story** was followed by 1994’s **It Runs in the Family** , about the Parker’s summer (following the winter of the previous movie I assume). It has Charles Grodin as the father, Mary Steenbergen as the mother, Kieren Culkin as Ralph, and Christian Culkin as Randy. It’s part of the example **CalMecham** stated, as it’s material from the Jean Shepard novel _In God We Trust; All Others Pay Cash_. He also narrates this movie, too. \*\*

I have this movie on VHS- had to special order it. I THINK it is called “my Summer story” or something like that- however, the video box notates it was renamed. Mostly about the same character, and his quest for a killer top to beat the bully. Not bad at all, but it doesn’t have that spark of seasonal magic that makes “A Christmas story” a classic.

Those books are great, incidentally. Read them, dudes!🆒

Did they ever make the sequel to “Doc Savage, man of Bronze” that the film mentions? Kinda campy, true, but enjoyable.

They also mentioned a sequel to Buckaroo banzai, but it never happened. Any idea why?😕

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**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/47 "2003-02-05T00:09:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DrDeth \*  
> \*\*I have this movie on VHS- had to special order it. I THINK it is called “my Summer story” or something like that- however, the video box notates it was renamed. \*\*

It must have been re-named, 'cause I always thought it was “My Summer Story” (or something simular). The IMDB lists it as “It Runs in the Family”. I wonder why they changed it.

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**Author:** ![Saxman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@Saxman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saxman)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/48 "2003-02-05T00:37:08Z")

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A friend of mine recently had a garage sale. He was selling his hardback copy of the book (still un-adapted to film) _Shaft Among The Jews_.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/49 "2003-02-05T14:18:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DrDeth \*  
> \*\*They also mentioned a sequel to Buckaroo banzai, but it never happened. Any idea why?😕 \*\*

According to the IMDb, it became [Big Trouble in Little China](http://us.imdb.com/Details?0090728) but [this site](http://www.figmentfly.com/bb/q12.html) says otherwise.

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> Generally, the fault for a lack of a sequel is lain at the feet of David Begelman (Until now - see question 11), who ran Gladden Entertainment at the time _The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai_ was released. It seems he actively blocked any attempts to produce “Against The World Crime League” though an interview with director W.D. Richter said investors had been willing to put up money for one.
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> Another reason given for Begelman’s refusal is possibly shady business practices on his part, which he feared would’ve been brought to light if paperwork for a sequel was started. Whether that’s true or not, we’ll never know.

Begelman committed suicide in '95.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/50 "2003-02-05T14:24:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mr. Miskatonic \*  
> **Zulu Dawn was made after Zulu. However, ZD concerns the battle of Islawhanda, wheras Zulu conerns the defense of Roarke’s Drift, which took place just after the battle of Islawhanda. Zulu Dawn was made 15 years after Zulu (made in 1964). Rumor has it that Satnley Baker planned a whole bunch of military movies based on the exploits of Welsh soldiers, but he died in 1976 having only producing Zulu. Whether ZD (which also has Welsh troops) was part of his scheme is unknown.**

Exactly. So is the sequel the movie made most recently, or is it the one showing events later chronologially?

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**Author:** ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daniel)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/51 "2003-02-05T15:11:32Z")

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The Hidden has a sequel called The Hidden 2. I can’t really describe the plot without giving away the ending to the first one, which is a great movie starring the top 3/4 of Claudia Christian’s ass.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/52 "2003-02-05T15:24:30Z")

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> The Hidden has a sequel called The Hidden 2. I can’t really describe the plot without giving away the ending to the first one, which is a great movie starring the top 3/4 of Claudia Christian’s ass.

There’s a second sequel, too, IIRC. Both sequels were made by and for the Sci-Fi Channel, and what I’ve seen of them is awful. The original **Hidden** , I agree, is great, even if it does rip off Hal Clement’s “Needle” shamelessly and without attribution.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/53 "2003-02-05T15:46:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BuckleberryFerry \*  
> \*\*Wasn’t this called something like “The Great American Fourth of July Disaster?” I’m pretty sure it wasn’t “It runs in the family”
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> ~Ferry
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> PS the book kicked ass \*\*

Nope, they’re right, It Runs in The Family is the sequel, see? [http://us.imdb.com/Title?0110168](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0110168) I swear I heard a different title at one point too, though. hmmm.

Oh wait, it’s also called " My Summer Story" so there we go. (AFAIR it was called " my…" in the video store, and “it…” on cable this summer.)

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**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/54 "2003-02-05T15:57:20Z")

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There was a sequel to **American Graffiti** called, surprisingly enough, **[More American Graffiti](http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/MoreAmericanGraffiti-1035771/reviews.php)**.

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**Author:** ![aleksia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@aleksia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aleksia)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/55 "2003-02-05T16:41:05Z")

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**Keith Berry** , I will eat my hat it you’re not talking about some Rowan Atkinsons film. I think even it was a part of Black Adder. Were there really obese orphans, demanding food from Scrooge?

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**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/56 "2003-02-05T20:49:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bean\_shadow \*  
> \*\ ***A Christmas Story** was followed by 1994’s **It Runs in the Family** , about the Parker’s summer (following the winter of the previous movie I assume). It has Charles Grodin as the father, Mary Steenbergen as the mother, Kieren Culkin as Ralph, and Christian Culkin as Randy. It’s part of the example **CalMecham** stated, as it’s material from the Jean Shepard novel _In God We Trust; All Others Pay Cash_. He also narrates this movie, too. \*\*

Hmmm… I was going to mention this movie, with this cast, but at the video store at which I worked, it was titled “My Summer Story.” Did an IMDB search, and it doesn’t say which title came first. Not that it matters.

hrh

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/57 "2003-02-05T20:50:50Z")

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Oops. Should’ve read the whole thread before butting my nose in…

hrh

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/58 "2003-02-06T00:10:00Z")

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While neither is a prequel nor sequel to the other, Vonnegut’s MOTHER NIGHT and SLAUGHTERHOUSE 5 share characters and have both been made into better-than-you’d-expect movies. Howard Campbell, an American writer in Berlin who works as a Nazi sympathizer-broadcaster during WW2 but is secretly an American intelligence agent is a minor character in S5 and the main character of MN.  
(Vonnegut himself was a character in S5 and in BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS [an unwatchable film] but was cut from the movie versions of each.)

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**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/59 "2003-02-06T00:14:01Z")

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The MST3K movie **Alien from L.A.** had a sequel, [Journey to the Center of the Earth](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0097630) as bad as the original movie

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2003, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/60 "2003-02-06T00:26:05Z")

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In between _A Christmas Story_ (1983) and _It Runs in the Family_ (1994), was the made-for-PBS _Ollie Hopnoodle’s Haven of Bliss_ (1988), starring James Sikking and Dorothy Lyman, with Jerry O’Connell as Ralph.  
[http://us.imdb.com/Details?0098023](http://us.imdb.com/Details?0098023)

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