# Sequels you May not Have Known Existed **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 4, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650 "2003-02-04T04:19:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![SnugTheJoiner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@SnugTheJoiner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnugTheJoiner)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/81 "2003-02-10T01:08:25Z")
RealityChuck and The Punkyova: I don’t think that THE LION IN WINTER can be considered as a sequel to BECKET in any way. True, LION was made later and takes place about thiteen years after BECKET, but it’s not an extension of the first story. The two films take place in different “realities.” BECKET is based on a 1960 play by the French playwright Jean Anouilh. It is a dramatization of historical events that actually happened, its twelfth-century setting looks pretty much like the real thing, and the characters behave as they would in the cultural and political heirarchy of their time. LION, on the other hand, is based on a 1966 play by American playwright James Goldman. It is an imaginative, speculative, “behind-the-scenes” look at the dysfunctional Plantagenet family, set at a Christmas court that never happened (History tells us that Eleanor spent the holidays in the slammer that year). And while the setting may look like the twelfth century, the characters live in a delightfully anachronistic world, and act and sound a great deal like we do today. (They even have a Christmas tree, five hundred years before anyone else in England!) The Punkyova has already pointed out the differences in the characters of the BECKET Henry and the LION Henry. It’s a testament to Peter O’Toole’s talent that he portrayed these two VERY different Henries–for all purposes two entirely different people–with equal skill. ---
**Author:** ![Ol\_Gaffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Ol\_Gaffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ol_Gaffer)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/82 "2003-02-10T17:38:09Z")
I read last night that **Steven Gross** was filming a _Tremors_ television show as well as a movie, _Tremors 4_. I was slightly shocked as I don’t even remember _Tremors 3_. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/83 "2003-02-10T17:47:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ol’Gaffer \* > \*\*I read last night that **Steven Gross** was filming a _Tremors_ television show as well as a movie, _Tremors 4_. I was slightly shocked as I don’t even remember _Tremors 3_. \*\* Yes, there is a Tremors TV show coming to Sci-Fi. It is what they are replacing the phenomenal Farscape with. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/84 "2003-02-10T21:19:33Z")
1939’s _The Wizard of Oz_ had to wait 46 years for its 1985 sequel, _Return to Oz_, starring a young Fairuza Balk. ---
**Author:** ![eunoia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eunoia/32/97_2.png) [@eunoia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eunoia)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/85 "2003-02-10T21:20:09Z")
Paul Newman plays “Fast” Eddie Felson 25 years apart in: [The Hustler (1961)](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0054997) and [The Color of Money (1986)](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0090863) But you probably knew this one. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/86 "2003-02-11T01:07:14Z")
Here’s a sequel I’ll bet **nobody** knew existed, including me\*: I give you…[The Jerk 2](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0087499)!!! \*I saw _My Big, Fat, Greek Wedding_ last night and was looking up what else Lanie Kazan had been in when I came across it. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/87 "2003-02-11T01:08:36Z")
Actually, I just noticed it’s called _The Jerk, Too_ - which is interesting since the character’s name is still Navin Johnson… ---
**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/88 "2003-02-11T02:26:11Z")
The actor from _Tremors_ is Michael Gross. Steven was his character name on _Family Ties_. _Tremors 3_ went straight to video, so it’s understandable how it flew under the radar. Still, replacing _Farscape_ with _Tremors_… ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/89 "2003-02-11T03:55:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \* > \*\*_Darkman_ had two straight-to-video sequels, with Arnold Vosloo (better known for playing Imhotep in the recent _Mummy_ movies) playing the vigliante here. The first sequel was \*Darkman II: The Return of Durant \* with Larry Drake reprising his role from the first movie… > > …which was strange because his character had been killed in an fiery helicoper crash.\*\* And it’s even stranger because 1.) He shows up in the sequel with nary a scratch considering almost being killed (unlike Westlake who was horribly burned). 2.) He seemed shocked that Westland is still around, even though he’s already come back from the dead once and at least he was badly burned. Durant seems even less likely to have survived. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/90 "2003-02-11T07:38:00Z")
I heard they made (or are working) on a sequal to **Star Wars**. Anyone else know anything about this? ---
**Author:** ![SC\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@SC\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/91 "2003-02-12T01:29:58Z")
I think I have, except it’s supposed to be a prequel. Probably won’t be any good. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/92 "2003-02-12T03:00:37Z")
I’ve seen _Tremors_ and _Tremors 2_, but not _Tremors 3_. Gonna have to look for that last one the next time I’m at Blockbuster. I while back I saw an add for the Tremors TV series. One of the new monsters will be the Ass Blaster, which uses farts for rocket propulsion. Sounds like my kinda TV show 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Punkyova](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@The\_Punkyova](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Punkyova)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/93 "2003-02-12T03:56:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SnugTheJoiner \* > [BLION, on the other hand, is based on a 1966 play by American playwright James Goldman. It is an imaginative, speculative, “behind-the-scenes” look at the dysfunctional Plantagenet family, set at a Christmas court that never happened (History tells us that Eleanor spent the holidays in the slammer that year). And while the setting may look like the twelfth century, the characters live in a delightfully anachronistic world, and act and sound a great deal like we do today. (They even have a Christmas tree, five hundred years before anyone else in England!) > \*\* Despite this, I have seen Henry’s line “I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life,” listed in seemingly reputable collections of quotations. Good points! (I obviously agree with you!) ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/94 "2003-02-12T05:11:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diceman \* > \*\*I’ve seen _Tremors_ and _Tremors 2_, but not _Tremors 3_. Gonna have to look for that last one the next time I’m at Blockbuster. > > I while back I saw an add for the Tremors TV series. One of the new monsters will be the Ass Blaster, which uses farts for rocket propulsion. Sounds like my kinda TV show 🙂 \*\* I’ve seen 1 and 3, but not 2. 3 was fun because of Burt (okay, I’m a Burt fan). And the Ass-blasters aren’t new, but in the 3rd film. ---
**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/95 "2003-02-13T00:54:11Z")
If **Diceman** saw the same ad for the upcoming TV series that I saw, it uses clips from _Tremors 2 & 3_. That doesn’t encourage me they may be recycling effects and footage in ads before the series even starts. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/96 "2003-02-13T06:16:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Punkyova \* > \*\*Despite this, I have seen Henry’s line “I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life,” listed in seemingly reputable collections of quotations. > > Good points! (I obviously agree with you!) \*\* Speaking of LION IN WINTER (which I often am) and sequels (well, remakes really) it’s being reshot with Patrick Stewart and Glenn Close in the leads. He’s a perfect choice if it just absolutely has to be remade, but her I’m not so sure on… (It was a B’way play two years ago starring Lawrence Fishburne and Stockard Channing; Whoopi Goldberg has always hoped to one day star in a production as well.) ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2003, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/97 "2003-02-13T09:09:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dooku \* > \*_Here’s a sequel I’ll bet **nobody** knew existed, including me_: > > I give you…[The Jerk 2](http://us.imdb.com/Title?0087499)!!! > \*\* Sorry to disappoint, but I’ve seen it. And whoooo-boy, did it stink. Until _The Exorcist 3_ came out, none of my friends in school would believe that I had seen _The Exorcist 2_. Not that it was really something to brag about. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/98 "2003-11-18T17:41:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RealityChuck \* > \*\*Exactly. So is the sequel the movie made most recently, or is it the one showing events later chronologially? \*\* CHRONOLOGICALLY: **Zulu Dawn** , the events leading up to and the Battle of Isandlwana. made in 1979 **Zulu** Takes place immediately _after_ the battle of Isandlwana, concerns the Battle of Rourke’s Drift. made in 1964 Both great movies. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/99 "2003-11-18T17:47:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DrDeth \* > \*\*Did they ever make the sequel to “Doc Savage, man of Bronze” that the film mentions? Kinda campy, true, but enjoyable. > \*\* In my heart of hearts I always saw **Raider’s of the Lost Ark** as a Doc Savage movie. _sigh_ No sequel was ever made. Doc’s been ripped off so much I doubt anyone will greenlight a Man-o-Bronze movie in my lifetime. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/100 "2003-11-24T03:36:23Z")
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