# Sequels you May not Have Known Existed

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 4, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650 "2003-02-04T04:19:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/101 "2003-11-24T04:50:34Z")

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According to the Internet Movie Database, the 1980 Frank Sinatra movie, “The First Deadly Sin,” was based on a novel by Roderick Thorp called “The Detective.” The sequel to this book, “Nothing Lasts Forever,” was also made into a movie…1988’s “Die Hard.” (Also, Bruce Willis apparently has a walk-on part in the Sinatra flick). Huh.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/102 "2003-12-01T00:41:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Stephe96 \*  
> \*\*According to the Internet Movie Database, the 1980 Frank Sinatra movie, “The First Deadly Sin,” was based on a novel by Roderick Thorp called “The Detective.” \*\*

Then the IMDB is full of it, because **The First Deadly Sin** was based on the Lawrence Sanders novel of the same name.

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**Author:** ![pezwookiee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9d8465/32.png) [@pezwookiee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pezwookiee)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/103 "2003-12-01T02:56:49Z")

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Well, as far as literary sequels go, I’m sure there’s tons of novelizations out there from Star Trek to Quantum Leap.

But Gary K. Wolf, the author of **Who Censored Roger Rabbit?** followed it with **Who P-p-p-plugged Roger Rabbit?** Only, “Plugged” was a sequel to the movie **Who Framed Roger Rabbit?** and not to “Censored.” On the back cover of “Plugged,” it states that Wolf was working on the third Roger Rabbit novel. Um… it seems he’s still working on that. (Oh and there was also a graphic novel sequel called **The Return of Doom** which I s’pose was about the return of Judge Doom.)

As far as movies go, **The Talented Mr. Ripley** is a remake of 1960’s **Plein Soleil** aka **Purple Noon**. It’s a prequel to 1977’s **The American Friend** which stars Dennis Hopper in the Matt Damon role. And it’s going to have two sequels; **Ripley’s Game** starring John Makovich and **White on White**. There’s also the books **Ripley Under Ground** and **The Boy Who Followed Ripley**.

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**Author:** ![Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Helen\_s\_Eidolon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helen_s_Eidolon)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/104 "2003-12-01T03:23:49Z")

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Since we’re allowed doing literary stuff, I was shocked, **shocked** to discover that in my edition of Paradise Lost there was the little known sequel, Paradise Regained. Not nearly as amusing (to me), few people realize that The Mists of Avalon is one book in a series of… 5?

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**Author:** ![Booker57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Booker57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Booker57)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/105 "2003-12-01T04:36:07Z")

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The book “101 Dalmations” was followed by “A Starlight Barking”  
I am 46 years old and still remember this.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/106 "2003-12-01T05:49:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Walloon \*  
> \*\*It wasn’t long ago, but how many of us remember the TV miniseries _Scarlett_ (1996), the long anticipated sequel to _Gone With the Wind_ (1939)?. I turned it off after the first half. \*\*

I remember the ads.

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**Author:** ![Made\_in\_Macau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/107 "2003-12-01T12:41:15Z")

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William Goldman wrote the novel ‘Brothers’ - a sequel to his previous novel ‘Marathon Man’ - which begins with the surprising revival of the brother we see/read exsanguinate and die in the previous film/book. Good book though.

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2003, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/108 "2003-12-01T12:47:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> \*\*Then the IMDB is full of it, because **The First Deadly Sin** was based on the Lawrence Sanders novel of the same name. \*\*

The Thorp novel was **The Detective** , which (like **The First Deadly Sin** ) was turned into a Sinatra movie (same name), in 1968.

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**Author:** ![psychotropic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@psychotropic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychotropic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/109 "2003-12-29T10:39:03Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Reno Nevada \*  
\*\*The move _Cruel Intentions_ was, of course, a modern teen sex romp based on _Les Liaisons Dangereuses_. I am a big fan of de Laclos’ book, and so watched both _Cruel Intentions_ and the direct-to-video _ **Cruel Intentions II** _. The latter was in fact a prequel to the former, and even had an extremely interesting premise–what would the affair between Valmont and Mertueil \* have been like (if, of course, they were modern teens).

It was, naturally, executed poorly, in part because the filmakers insisted on making Valmont, the protagonist, sympathetic.

[li] I cannot remember the names used in the modern version. \*\*[/li][/QUOTE]

This has to be the WORST movie I have EVER seen. The acting/storyline/everything was just TERRIBLE (and there was no Ryan Phillipe). I was very disappointed because Cruel Intentions was really good. This sequel even had the tacky sub-title: Manchester Prep. Eerrgghh! Where’s my bucket?

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**Author:** ![Wintermute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@Wintermute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wintermute)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/110 "2003-12-29T15:07:32Z")

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_Mary Poppins_, by P.L. Travers was only the first of a series. I’m not sure how many there were in the series in total, but I remember reading 5 or 6 of them as a kid.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/111 "2003-12-29T15:49:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by brianmelendez \*  
> \*\*More literary sequels:
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> _Logan’s Run_ was followed by _Logan’s World_ and _Logan’s Search_.
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I’ve been looking for these for years with no luck.

Tips?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/112 "2003-12-29T15:54:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by DocCathode \*  
> \*\*Not to mention _The Bates Motel_. Imagine Fnatasy Island in the motel and you’ve got a fair idea of the one and only episode of this series.
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> Costarred that chick who played Tank Girl. \*\*

Lori Petty?

BUT even better, it starred Harold (w/o Maude) - BUD CORT!!!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/113 "2003-12-29T16:07:25Z")

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I don’t really consider literary sequels all that remarkable as novels are so much cheaper to make than movies that a sequel is all but guaranteed if the original produces any kind of money whatsoever. But I do know of a very obscure sequel: Steve Vance’s novel “The Abyss” is a sequel of sorts to a little-known cult horror novel “Let’s Go Play At The Adams” by Mendel Johnson. It’s “of sorts” because it involves people who read the Adams novel and copycat the original crime, with the widow of the author of the Adams novel as a character.

There’s also an actual sequel, “The End of The Game” by Barry Schneebeli, but as the Adams novel is in some kind of copyright hell, it’s not likely to be published.

For the record: I wrote a “bug patch” for the novel in which I altered the ending to make it into some decent softcore bondage porn. Nobody liked it but me.

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**Author:** ![slu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/74df32/32.png) [@slu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slu)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/114 "2003-12-29T16:18:50Z")

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I just saw _Timecop 2_ advertised on PPV. Haven’t seen it yet though.

It was cheesy as all hell, but I must say that I rather enjoyed the original _Timecop_. Although I am a sucker for time travel movies.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/115 "2003-12-29T19:11:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Diceman \*  
> \*\*I’ve seen _Tremors_ and _Tremors 2_, but not _Tremors 3_. Gonna have to look for that last one the next time I’m at Blockbuster. \*\*

It’s actually a little better than #2 (not difficult)

James Cameron’s first movie was a sequel: [Pirhanna II: the spawning](http://imdb.com/title/tt0082910/)

There were two sequels to [The Howling](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0082533/) ending in [Attack of the Were-Wombats](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0093227/) slightly paraphrased title

Scanners has three sequels ending with [Scanner Cop II](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0114344/)

[From Dusk Til Dawn](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0116367/) has two sequels ending with [From Dusk Til Dawn III: The Hangman’s Daughter](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0120695/)  
And aren’t a platoon of Universal Soldier movies?

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**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/116 "2003-12-29T19:21:10Z")

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Joshua Jackson was in a crappy little flick called _The Skulls_. You can rent _The Skulls II_ and _The Skulls III_. The sequels were both direct to video and don’t have Pacey.

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**Author:** ![Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/117 "2003-12-29T19:36:06Z")

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In 1985 there was _Return to Oz_, a sequel to _The Wizard of Oz_ and much darker in tone. The screenplay is based on the second and third _Oz_ books.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/118 "2003-12-29T19:44:47Z")

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Oh, [Troll II](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0105643/) has the distinction of being best placed sequel (#5) in IMBDs [worst films](http://us.imdb.com/bottom_100_films) of all time

and **Soup** , just FTR, I was one of the first people in the world to see [url=“[http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0089908/)”]Rteturn to Oz - I was at the _crew_ screening. Didn’t stop it sucking pretty badly, though.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/119 "2003-12-29T20:40:24Z")

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Everyone knows about **The Neverending Story**. Well, I guess in an attempt to make it truely neverending, a sequel was made, [The Neverending Story 2.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100240/) Many people know about that, but did you know there was a [Neverending Story 3?](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110647/)

There was also a short lived TV series, [Tales from the Neverending Story.](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271308/)

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2003, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-may-not-have-known-existed/152650/120 "2003-12-29T22:03:09Z")

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Chester Anderson’s novel **The Butterfly Kid** has two sequels: **The Unicorn Girl** by Michael Kurland and **The Probability Pad** by T.A. Waters. They’re fun, in a '60s-hippies-in-Greenwich-Village kind of way.

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