# Sequels you wouldn't know are sequels from the titles

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**Created:** [May 20, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sequels-you-wouldnt-know-are-sequels-from-the-titles/1018592 "2025-05-20T16:56:54Z")\
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First Blood – Rambo

… I know they tried to fix that by calling it “Rambo (First Blood, Part 2)”, but I liked having that first movie separated from the blockbuster _X-Treme Ac-tion!_ series. It was a smaller, lower-budget psychological study.

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> [@Author\_Balk](#):
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> Willard - Ben

I got confused and went to see Willard - Scott …

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(Took my centenarian grandma and she had a lovely time)

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Jean de Florette and Manon des Sources (Manon of the Spring).

Do operas count?

Wagner’s Nibelungenring cycle Das\_Rheingold, Die Walküre, Siegfried and Götterdämmerung.

(And Wagner’s Parsifal is actually a prequel of sorts to his Lohengrin.)

And Mozart’s Marriage of Figaro is a sequel to Rossini’s Barber of Seville.

Back to more typical films: Unusually among Bollywood film franchises, the sequel to the 2003 hit Koi… Mil Gaya is called Krrish, which is why the following movie is called Krrish 3 although there are only two films explicitly titled Krrish.

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Do operas count?

_Trouble in Tahiti_ and _A Quiet Place_ (not the movie).

On (and off) Broadway, there’s _In Trousers_ and _Falsettos_ (_March of the Falsettos_/_Falsettoland_).

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_Army of Darkness_ is the **third** movie in the Evil Dead series, following _The Evil Dead_ and _Evil Dead II_ and is succeeded by _Evil Dead_ and _Evil Dead Rise_

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_Dirty Harry_/_Magnum Force_/_The Enforcer_/_Sudden Impact_/_The Dead Pool_

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> And Mozart’s Marriage of Figaro is a sequel to Rossini’s Barber of Seville.

Nitpick: Giovanni Paisiello’s _Barber of Seville_ (1782). Rossini’s _Barber of Seville_ - a different opera with different libretto drawn from the same play - premiered in 1816, 30 years after _Figaro_ (1786). In modern parlance Rossini’s _Barber_ would be a prequel to Mozart’s _Figaro_.

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Huh, by golly you’re right, I just never noticed that!

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_The Maltese Falcon_ → _The Black Bird_. Though the latter was a comedy, it was a continuation of the original, down to a couple of actors reprising their roles.

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_Saturday Night Fever_ begat _Staying Alive_

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Based on the novels the films were adapted from:  
_Die Hard(1988)_ is a sequel to _The Detective(1968)_ starring Frank Sinatra.

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The 1994 TV mini series [_Scarlett_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108915/reference/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1) was, 55 years later, the sequel to [_Gone with the Wind_](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031381/reference/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_gone).

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> _Saturday Night Fever_ begat _Staying Alive_

I mean, naming the sequel after a song from the first one - a song that was probably more famous than the movie itself - is a bit of a hint. If I didn’t know the connection, I’d still suspect that _Staying Alive_ had something to do with _Saturday Night Fever_.

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Initially it was going to be “An Inkling of the Red October” and instead of a bookish CIA analyst the protagonist was going to be a bookish English professor…

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The Hint for Red October: try looking underwater.

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Perhaps not properly a sequel, but [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Merry\_Wives\_of\_Windsor#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merry_Wives_of_Windsor#) features John Falstaff, a character in _Henry IV, Parts I and II_. Tradition has it that Queen Elizabeth I asked Shakespeare to write a play depicting Falstaff in love.

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If you were familiar with the original movie **In the Heat of the Night** you would know that the movie **The Call me _Mister_ Tibbs** was a sequel, because it’s a significant quote by Sidney Poitier’s character. But I submit that you would never guess that **The Organization** was the second sequel.

From the original British titles you’d know that **The Quatermass Xperiment** , **Quatermass 2** , and **Quatermass and the Pit** were all in the same series. But the American titles almost seem designed to erase the connections: **The Creeping Unknown** , **Enemy from Space** , and the ludicrously-titled **Five Million Years to Earth**.

You also wouldn’t guess that **Gigantis the Fire Monster** was the sequel to **Godzilla**. Again, in Japan, the titles make it clear – they’re **Gojira** and **Gojira’s Counterattack**. (The latter was officially translated as **Godzilla Raids Again**. I regard the title as a joke by the US distributor that was lost on the representatives from Toho.)

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From Russia with Love was mentioned but the whole James Bond series would fit the list.

One that came immediately to mind to me was " **The Good the Bad and the Ugly"** third in a trilogy with the second in the series “For a few dollars more” does reference “For a fistful of dollars”

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> [@Jegpeg](#):
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> From Russia with Love was mentioned but the whole James Bond series would fit the list.

I’m guessing it’s the same story for Dean Martin’s outings as Matt Helm, from THE SILENCERS to MURDERERS’ ROW, and from THE AMBUSHERS to THE WRECKING CREW, unless you want to argue that, _no, see, they use those silencers at murderers’ row, because that’s where ambushers — a veritable wrecking crew of ‘em! — lurk…_

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’m guessing it’s the same story for Dean Martin’s outings as Matt Helm,

And the same with Michael Caine as Harry Palmer: **The Ipcress File,**  **Funeral in Berlin** and **Billion Dollar Brain.** The 60s were big on spy series with unrelated names.

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Angels & Demons

The Suicide Squad

The Two Jakes

US Marshals

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