# Serdar Argic's cousin is a member of the SDMB **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961 "2009-06-25T17:11:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/141 "2009-07-06T20:04:52Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Yes. That’s it exactly. > Crawl back into your hole now. Thanks! I was just checking 😃 BTW, new poll after egypt speech shows that israelis view Obama as pro-palestine: [http://www.palestinechronicle.com/news.php?id=254a1e3455b2071830e1b81b9137598d&mode=details](http://www.palestinechronicle.com/news.php?id=254a1e3455b2071830e1b81b9137598d&mode=details) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/142 "2009-07-06T21:17:47Z")
Here’s the actual Jerusalem Post article, btw: > **[Satellite News and latest stories | The Jerusalem Post](https://www.jpost.com/Tags/satellite)** > > Breaking news about Satellite from The Jerusalem Post. Read the latest updates on Satellite including articles, videos, opinions and more. It’s not in response to the Egypt speech. It’s probably in response to the administration’s attitude regarding the freezing of settlements. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/143 "2009-07-06T22:26:01Z")
I love when these kinds of thread backfire on the OP. 😛 I have to admit, this is one of the stupider and more deserved back-firings I’ve seen in a while though. -XT ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/144 "2009-07-07T20:34:36Z")
Looks like Finnegan’s No.2 got self-pwned in this thread: [Resolved: A Statute of Limitations on Historical Grievance is a Good Idea - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=523566) Epic Fail! 😃 I wonder why Finnegan hasn’t stepped in yet to save his friend :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/145 "2009-07-07T20:48:02Z")
There’s a difference between people non agreeing with you and “self-pwning”, you know. Or you \*would \*know, if you weren’t an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/146 "2009-07-07T20:51:01Z")
Who is ‘Finnegan’s No.2’? How was s/he ‘self-pwned’ in the linked thread? How was it an ‘Epic Fail!’ (with a stupid smiley thrown in)? Why should Finn step in to save his ‘friend’? I know you think you are making a point (and for that matter, that you are speaking English), but seriously…WTF are you on about? -XT ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/147 "2009-07-07T21:02:37Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Who is ‘Finnegan’s No.2’? How was s/he ‘self-pwned’ in the linked thread? How was it an ‘Epic Fail!’ (with a stupid smiley thrown in)? Why should Finn step in to save his ‘friend’? > > I know you think you are making a point (and for that matter, that you are speaking English), but seriously…WTF are you on about? > > -XT I’m sort of hoping he’s referring to me and not you. By a process of inversion, being insulted by someone so profoundly stupid and clueless as **Dog80** must be a kind of compliment. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/148 "2009-07-07T21:38:49Z")
I think Dog is of the impression that if anybody disagrees with “Zionism” that they’ve made a devastating argument, regardless of any internal logical validity/coherence/factual validity to said argument. As with Stone’s babbling, the fact that Elv1s opened his yap is evidently good enough for Dog. Being stupid, Dog doesn’t concern himself with the truth or falsehood of the idea of early Zionists going in and taking over land due to 2000 year old historical grievances. It doesn’t matter to him that it is simply a fiction that idiots like Elv1s like to spew and the fact is that, for over half a century before ‘48, Jews were going in and buying land to live on, and even the original partition being drawn along rough ethnic majority lines is the truth. Bah, having to play Elv1s’ stupid game even to point out his error on that one facet of his idiotic argument is pointless. I’m not going to get any deeper into it. People in that thread generally have the right idea, ignore the schmuck. I think we just did a tangent on “entitlement” recently in GD, anyways, actually. Of course, as the [Zionist Signal](http://hotair.cachefly.net/hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/bat-signal.jpg) is broken, I was not able to valiantly come to Malthus’ defense, which always happens (ya know) since us people just stick together like that. ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/149 "2009-07-07T22:30:14Z")
I think FinnAgain is under the impression that if you obfuscate a topic by babbling about irrelevant points while at the same time shouting at the top of your lungs, you can win any argument. Ehe? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/150 "2009-07-07T22:32:13Z")
> [@Dog80](#): > > I think Cite? ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/151 "2009-07-08T01:26:00Z")
[QUOTE=Dog80] I think FinnAgain is under the impression that if you obfuscate a topic by babbling about irrelevant points while at the same time shouting at the top of your lungs, you can win any argument. [/QUOTE] Well sure…but then again, you think you are making a point here. Or sense for that matter. Both of which are debatable, to be honest. > [@](#): > > Ehe? 😛 You aren’t, by any chance, related to Hentor or Elvis, are you? -XT ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/152 "2009-07-08T15:48:10Z")
> [@Dog80](#): > > I think FinnAgain is under the impression that if you obfuscate a topic by babbling about irrelevant points while at the same time shouting at the top of your lungs, you can win any argument. Ehe? That does work if your only goal is self-reassurance, not persuasion. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/153 "2009-07-08T16:36:18Z")
Persuasion? I may be tenacious as a terrier, but I’d have to be lobotomized and then shot in the head to start thinking that idiots, liars and tools like you and your fellow travelers would ever be persuaded by anything anybody could do short of a Clockwork Orange treatment. Hell, you schmucks routinely get even _the most basic facts_ wrong and sail merrily on, merely rearranging your argument to come to the same exactly conclusion it had before all of its supporting facts were shown to be fictional. If blatant factual refutation of the fundamental issues of a discussion isn’t enough to change someone’s mind, then all the logic in the world will be equally useless. You and your fellow travelers are wrong and stupid because you _choose_ to be, since your houses of cards have to be built on bullshit that then has to go unexamined. Against willful stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain. Of course, there’s also something to be said for the profound synesthesia of you knuckle-draggers when you think that text is “yelling at the top of its lungs”. Then again, there’s also something to be said about how fucking stupid you and folks like Dog are if you really don’t understand why my posts are on topic and relevant. Just like there’s somethign to be said if you believe I need “reassurance” from anything other than knowing what the facts and context of the issues under discussion. And that something is: “are you fucking retarded?” ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/154 "2009-07-08T18:32:40Z")
Epic fail! I stomping your dog (80)! LOL! ROFLMAO!!! Nyuk nyuk nyuk!!! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/155 "2009-07-08T19:07:15Z")
Oh, dear, dear. Have we learned nothing at all from our time on this board? It’s “I BURNING your dog”. Please observe the proprieties in the future. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/156 "2009-07-08T19:38:09Z")
Pwned! Whta a noob… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/157 "2009-07-08T20:26:35Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh, dear, dear. Have we learned nothing at all from our time on this board? > > It’s “I BURNING your dog”. I stomping your paradigm! Yur a tureen. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/158 "2009-07-08T20:38:37Z")
I don’t believe you are allowed to use ten dollar words like ‘paradigm’ (not if you spell it correctly) in that sentence. I think it’s against the roolz… > [@](#): > > Yur a tureen. This was a nice touch, though. -XT ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/159 "2009-07-08T23:59:09Z")
I think he’s a teepee and a wigwam. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/160 "2009-07-09T04:42:18Z")
Yeah, definitely two tents. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961.md?page=9)