# Serenity Collector's Edition **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 12, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382 "2007-08-12T22:40:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/1 "2007-08-12T22:40:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Serenity, the action-packed event that delivers thrilling non-stop adventure, incredible battles in dangerous worlds and spectacular visual effects, is now available in a Special 2-Disc Collector’s Edition containing all-new bonus content and never-seen-before footage! With over 30 minutes of all-new special features and special collectible packaging, the Serenity – Collector’s Edition is a must own for all true Sci-Fi and Joss Whedon fans! All-new 2-disc edition will include 6 completely new bonus elements including cast & filmmaker commentary. Will also include all bonus features from previous release.\*All New Bonus Features: > [ul][li]Extended Scenes (6:45)[/li][li]Take A Walk on Serenity (4:00) Cast and Crew take us on a special tour of the Serenity space ship[/li][li]A Filmmaker’s Journey (19:49) Take A Journey with Joss Whedon from script to the big screen[/li][li]The Green Clan (3:03) An expose on Cinematographer Jack Green and his team[/li][li]Sci-Fi Inside: Serenity (21:41) Hosted by Adam Baldwin, an in-depth look at the film that was resurrected from a cancelled television show, as well as its supportive culture.[/li][li]Session 416 (7:52) These internet pieces document a portion of River’s participation in a psychological study and her interactions with her therapist.[/li][li]\*\*Feature Commentary with Director Joss Whedon and Cast Members Nathan Fillion, Adam Baldwin, Summer Glau, and Ron Glass \*\*[/ul][/li] > [Link](http://tinyurl.com/2ajy8u) Most of you are probably aware of the rerelease on August 21st but as a good number of my friends don’t seem to be, I thought I’d post a thread to alert any similarly ignorant Browncoats. I’ve not pre-ordered it myself but I’ll be sure to pick up a copy sometime in the next few months or ask for it for Christmas. My only wish is that Alan had been included on the new commentary track. Wash was always my favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Just\_Ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Ed)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/2 "2007-08-13T00:54:25Z")
Amazon also posted an interesting bit of an audio interview with Joss Whedon on the [Screening Room Blog](http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/post/PLNK3NNSANTIMBEUW). I found it interesting one of the reasons he gives for the “Collector’s Edition” is that it has a cooler cover. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/3 "2007-08-13T01:20:32Z")
Hmmmm. Thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/4 "2007-08-13T01:56:21Z")
Mine’s been on order from Amazon for a month. ---
**Author:** ![Reepicheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Reepicheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reepicheep)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/5 "2007-08-13T05:33:10Z")
Thanks for the update, I now see a Christmas present in my future. ---
**Author:** ![akira5822](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@akira5822](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akira5822)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/6 "2007-08-13T08:03:08Z")
Thanks for the info…The evil amazon has also forced me to pre-order the 5 disc blade runner collectors edition releasing in december lol :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/7 "2007-08-13T17:54:43Z")
For fellow Whedonites, they are finally releasing a 30-disc _Angel_ box set, collecting all five seasons of the show in one very nice package that sort of matches the _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ Chosen Collection from two years ago. I have held off buying the individual seasons of Angel, expecting them to release a nice set like this, and my patience has paid off. [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) has it for preorder for $97.99, and it will expectedly retail for closer to $130 when it comes out at the end of October. _Angel_ Season 5 is the best season of any television show ever. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/8 "2007-08-13T18:15:52Z")
Now that _Serenity_ has had a couple of years to rattle around my brain, the less happy I am with it. And the fact that certain characters get killed off has nothing to do with it. Here’s my three main reasons: 1. In the TV series, the interior of the spaceship _Serenity_ felt for the most part like a warm, homey place. In the movie, it gave off a much colder vibe. I don’t know why that is, and I don’t know whether it’s universal or just me. But that’s how it felt to me. 2. The small scale of the adventures in the TV series was a plus, AFAIAC. It felt fun to be along on the escapades of a likable bunch of people operating around the edges of civilization and the law. With just the right amount of deeper danger from the “Hands of Blue” guys. The movie was just too damned Big and Serious - do we really have to save the frickin’ _universe_ here?? 3. One could imagine a future for the _Serenity_ crew after the TV series ended. But it’s hard to see any worthwhile _Firefly_-verse story arc after the movie. It’s hard to be a small-time, not-so-legal smuggler/salvager/etc. once you’ve saved the universe and everyone knows about it. Where do Mal & Co. go from here? Nowhere interesting. It’s a total shutdown of the imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/9 "2007-08-13T18:53:31Z")
Not an argument, really, but a counterpoint: [QUOTE=RTFirefly] 1. In the TV series, the interior of the spaceship _Serenity_ felt for the most part like a warm, homey place. In the movie, it gave off a much colder vibe. I don’t know why that is, and I don’t know whether it’s universal or just me. But that’s how it felt to me. [/quote] I didn’t really get a colder sense of _Serenity_, but there was considerable tension in the air–more than there usually was during the TV episodes–and the tension was more sustained because of the longer format. I can see how that would give a colder impression. > [@](#): > > 1. The small scale of the adventures in the TV series was a plus, AFAIAC. It felt fun to be along on the escapades of a likable bunch of people operating around the edges of civilization and the law. With just the right amount of deeper danger from the “Hands of Blue” guys. The movie was just too damned Big and Serious - do we really have to save the frickin’ _universe_ here?? You may be verging on hyperbole on purpose here, I’m not sure. They didn’t save the universe. They didn’t even save the world. They did good, and in a bigger way than they ever did in the TV series, but it was no blow-up-the-Death-Star or topple-the-Empire thing. They broadcast some information that high-ranked government officials desperately wanted suppressed. They probably caused some political shakeup, maybe even some arrests/lynchings of said officials. They triggered a confrontation with Reavers that, along with the information on the Reavers’ origin, would probably force the Alliance to do something about them (rather than dismissing them as a ghost story). That’s it. No instant revolution. Browncoats and Alliance loyalists are not sitting down and singing kumbayah (or the Ewok song). Life is still hard out there. The Alliance is still the big bully on the block. But maybe, just maybe, some folks got woke up enough to rein things in. > [@](#): > > 1. One could imagine a future for the _Serenity_ crew after the TV series ended. But it’s hard to see any worthwhile _Firefly_-verse story arc after the movie. It’s hard to be a small-time, not-so-legal smuggler/salvager/etc. once you’ve saved the universe and everyone knows about it. Where do Mal & Co. go from here? Nowhere interesting. It’s a total shutdown of the imagination. It would be hard to pursue the series, but mainly–in my opinion–because they broke up so much of the character dynamic that was integral to the show’s charm. River’s overwhelming abilities would be an ongoing problem, too; she could short-circuit so many plots now that she’s got it (at least somewhat) together. I could more easily see setting episodes between the end of Season 1 and the movie. Of course, I suspect everyone involved looked on it as a last hurrah, and didn’t really expect to carry on afterward. Still, how many people outside of government circles know just who spread the information? How many of the people who _do_ know will be out to get them now? They’ll have to be sneakier than ever to get by, at least for a while, but they’ve still got to put food on the table and fuel in the ship. I could see them going right back to doing what they had been doing, coping with their losses and trying to move on. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/10 "2007-08-13T19:19:04Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] 1. In the TV series, the interior of the spaceship _Serenity_ felt for the most part like a warm, homey place. In the movie, it gave off a much colder vibe. I don’t know why that is, and I don’t know whether it’s universal or just me. But that’s how it felt to me. [/quote] I agree and thought it was a good thing. As noted above, the atmosphere abord ship was much tenser than it had been during the series. Book and Inara are gone, Mal’s angry at everything and the stress of harboring River and Simon is at a breaking point. The ship _is_ a colder place and the film reflects that. ---
**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/11 "2007-08-13T21:06:10Z")
This strikes me as kind of a lame double-dip. I guess an extra hour of documentaries doesn’t seem all that impressive after the Lord of the Rings special editions with days’ worth. The “extended scenes” do sound kind of intriguing though. I’m assuming they’re different than the deleted scenes that appeared on the first release. Does anyone know whether these are reintegrated back into the movie itself? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2007, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/12 "2007-08-13T21:44:56Z")
[QUOTE=Balance] Not an argument, really, but a counterpoint: I didn’t really get a colder sense of _Serenity_, but there was considerable tension in the air–more than there usually was during the TV episodes–and the tension was more sustained because of the longer format. I can see how that would give a colder impression. [/quote] No, I’m thinking strictly in terms of color, lighting, images. > [@](#): > > Still, how many people outside of government circles know just who spread the information? How many of the people who _do_ know will be out to get them now? They’ll have to be sneakier than ever to get by, at least for a while, but they’ve still got to put food on the table and fuel in the ship. I could see them going right back to doing what they had been doing, coping with their losses and trying to move on. The problem is, the government will never again have an excuse for _not_ paying attention to them. Before the events in the movie, Mal was presumably just one of hundreds or thousands of minor suspected smugglers, and the government wasn’t singling him out for any special attention; if they _had_ been, he’d have been out of business. And from then on, they’d always have an eye on him. Kinda like here and now, where the government can put any two-bit drug dealer it wants to out of business, but the problem is the sheer abundance of them. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/13 "2007-08-15T00:33:03Z")
[QUOTE=Big Bad Voodoo Lou] For fellow Whedonites, they are finally releasing a 30-disc _Angel_ box set, collecting all five seasons of the show in one very nice package that sort of matches the _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ Chosen Collection from two years ago. I have held off buying the individual seasons of Angel, expecting them to release a nice set like this, and my patience has paid off. [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) has it for preorder for $97.99, and it will expectedly retail for closer to $130 when it comes out at the end of October. [/QUOTE] Ooh. Thank you. I know what I’m asking for for Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2007, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serenity-collectors-edition/415382/14 "2007-08-15T00:39:52Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] 1. One could imagine a future for the _Serenity_ crew after the TV series ended. But it’s hard to see any worthwhile _Firefly_-verse story arc after the movie. [/QUOTE] Is it time to give up hope that we will ever find out the actual answer to this, or is there still some realistic possibility of a return in some form?